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Switch will be ok?

Switch will win May NPD 227 54.57%
 
Nintendo will drop Switch 30 7.21%
 
Wii U shall rise and take the throne 79 18.99%
 
See results 80 19.23%
 
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Zod95 said:
zorg1000 said:

PSP not outselling DS is 100% irrelevant to the discussion though, i have absolutely no idea how you came up with a response like that based on me saying a revision with better battery life can potentially make Switch more appealing to handheld gamers. its like you took 2 and 2 and came up with 7. It just doesnt add up.

How is Switch getting a more portable friendly revision a drastic change in strategy? Its literally the same thing as those examples of more portable friendly revisions making the platform more attractive.

If you dont think having a steady flow of releases throughout the year is important for a platform to sustain momentum than I dont know what to tell you.

Wii U support dropped almost immediately.

Wii games as of Dec 2006-33

Wii games as of March 2007-47 (14 new games)

Wii games as of June 2007-72 (25 new games)

Wii games as of Sept 2007-114 (42 new games)

Wii games as of Dec 2007-196 (72 new games)

 

Wii U games as of Dec 2012-37

Wii U games as of March 2013-44 (7 new games)

Wii U games as of June 2013-51 (7 new games)

Wii U games as of Sept 2013-74 (23 new games)

Wii U games as of Dec 2013-85 (11 new games)

 

The majority of games released in year 1 would have started development before the system released so support/lack of support was not decided by sales.

I explained, and explained, and explained. You just don't want to understand.

I think it's best for us to stop arguing and let the time tell who's right.

Just let me know your predictions for 31/12/2020 and 31/12/2023.

thats because your explanation makes no sense.

im not going to make bets for 4 & 7 years from now, if you want a shorter term one than lets do sales by the end of the year.

i think Switch will sell over 10 million in 2017.



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zorg1000 said:
Zod95 said:

I explained, and explained, and explained. You just don't want to understand.

I think it's best for us to stop arguing and let the time tell who's right.

Just let me know your predictions for 31/12/2020 and 31/12/2023.

thats because your explanation makes no sense.

im not going to make bets for 4 & 7 years from now, if you want a shorter term one than lets do sales by the end of the year.

i think Switch will sell over 10 million in 2017.

If you can't do your own predictions, you can't criticize mine.

But I infer that you believe NS will have the same amount of games that Wii had, which is far greater than what WiiU had. Am I wrong?

I also deduce that you believe NS will replace 3DS at some point in the future. Am I wrong?



Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 70M      WiiU: 25M

Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 18M

Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 90M      XOne: 40M      WiiU: 15M      Switch: 20M

Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 110M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 14M      Switch: 65M

Zod95 said:
zorg1000 said:

thats because your explanation makes no sense.

im not going to make bets for 4 & 7 years from now, if you want a shorter term one than lets do sales by the end of the year.

i think Switch will sell over 10 million in 2017.

If you can't do your own predictions, you can't criticize mine.

But I infer that you believe NS will have the same amount of games that Wii had, which is far greater than what WiiU had. Am I wrong?

I also deduce that you believe NS will replace 3DS at some point in the future. Am I wrong?

I think Switch will sell well over 50 million.

As many games as Wii? Maybe not. Significantly more than Wii U? Most definitely.

And yes i strongly believe Switch is also the successor to 3DS.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

zorg1000 said:
Zod95 said:

If you can't do your own predictions, you can't criticize mine.

But I infer that you believe NS will have the same amount of games that Wii had, which is far greater than what WiiU had. Am I wrong?

I also deduce that you believe NS will replace 3DS at some point in the future. Am I wrong?

I think Switch will sell well over 50 million.

As many games as Wii? Maybe not. Significantly more than Wii U? Most definitely.

And yes i strongly believe Switch is also the successor to 3DS.

If those 50M are lifetime sales, and assuming 50% are from home console buyers and the other 50% are from the handheld clientele, you're basically seeing the successor of 3DS with only 25M in sales. Somehow and to some extent you do believe in my theory, unless you expect the handheld market to shrink to a third this next generation (after being shrunk to a third from the previous one).

Of course you're not expecting the NS to have the exact same number of games as the Wii, but can we say you're expecting for it to have more or less the same amount (for example, < 20% different)?



Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 70M      WiiU: 25M

Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 18M

Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 90M      XOne: 40M      WiiU: 15M      Switch: 20M

Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 110M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 14M      Switch: 65M

Zod95 said:
zorg1000 said:

I think Switch will sell well over 50 million.

As many games as Wii? Maybe not. Significantly more than Wii U? Most definitely.

And yes i strongly believe Switch is also the successor to 3DS.

If those 50M are lifetime sales, and assuming 50% are from home console buyers and the other 50% are from the handheld clientele, you're basically seeing the successor of 3DS with only 25M in sales. Somehow and to some extent you do believe in my theory, unless you expect the handheld market to shrink to a third this next generation (after being shrunk to a third from the previous one).

Of course you're not expecting the NS to have the exact same number of games as the Wii, but can we say you're expecting for it to have more or less the same amount (for example, < 20% different)?

i didnt say 50 million, i said well over 50 million, as in 50 million being the absolute minimum.

I have no specific prediction for number of games, Wii had over 1200 retail games, Wii U has roughly 200. I think Switch will be closer to Wii than Wii U.



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zorg1000 said:
Zod95 said:

If those 50M are lifetime sales, and assuming 50% are from home console buyers and the other 50% are from the handheld clientele, you're basically seeing the successor of 3DS with only 25M in sales. Somehow and to some extent you do believe in my theory, unless you expect the handheld market to shrink to a third this next generation (after being shrunk to a third from the previous one).

Of course you're not expecting the NS to have the exact same number of games as the Wii, but can we say you're expecting for it to have more or less the same amount (for example, < 20% different)?

i didnt say 50 million, i said well over 50 million, as in 50 million being the absolute minimum.

I have no specific prediction for number of games, Wii had over 1200 retail games, Wii U has roughly 200. I think Switch will be closer to Wii than Wii U.

As for me, I have no absolutes. Switch can very well sell over 100M. It can also sell under 10M. I don't know. Nobody knows (I wonder how you're certain that it will sell above 50M). It all depends on how gamers react and how Nintendo reacts to those reactions. It all depends on the scenarios that end up being generated.

However, I see some scenarios more likely than others. The most likely scenario I see (my best bet) leads to Switch selling 20M by the end of 2020. It can be more, it can be less. Time will tell how far I am from the truth. But you're not in that game. You're in the game of criticizing others' bets.



Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 70M      WiiU: 25M

Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 18M

Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 90M      XOne: 40M      WiiU: 15M      Switch: 20M

Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 110M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 14M      Switch: 65M

zorg1000 said:
Zod95 said:

If those 50M are lifetime sales, and assuming 50% are from home console buyers and the other 50% are from the handheld clientele, you're basically seeing the successor of 3DS with only 25M in sales. Somehow and to some extent you do believe in my theory, unless you expect the handheld market to shrink to a third this next generation (after being shrunk to a third from the previous one).

Of course you're not expecting the NS to have the exact same number of games as the Wii, but can we say you're expecting for it to have more or less the same amount (for example, < 20% different)?

i didnt say 50 million, i said well over 50 million, as in 50 million being the absolute minimum.

I have no specific prediction for number of games, Wii had over 1200 retail games, Wii U has roughly 200. I think Switch will be closer to Wii than Wii U.

The GameCube actually has the highest software attach rate for any Nintendo system, even above Wii, lol. 

So that shows you can have a very high attach rate even with a traditional Nintendo system. I think N64 would've been similar too but there just was a cap on how many games could be made for it because cartridges were so expensive then it locked out many developers, so less titles = lower attach rate. GameCube had something like 3x more software titles. 

If Switch can have a GameCube like attach rate, but sell a bit more than the 3DS (lets say 70 million LTD) ... Nintendo is going to make a shit ton of money from this thing.