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160rmf said:
StarOcean said:

Phones last much longer than the Switch without needing a charge

Why don't you play Zelda BOTW in your phone, then?

I really hope that's sarcasm and if so it's a poor attempt. You know exactly what is meant, as a portable a smartphone does the job better than the Switch. It can run it's primary function without its battery being eaten so fast. The primary function of the Switch should not eat its battery in 3-4hrs. Thats pathetic for a 'portable'



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Honestly, the moment a proper Pokemon game is brought to the Switch is the moment Nintendo no longer needs to worry about Wii U-level failures... at the very least, this console that is already performing well would enter "success" status with a quality Pokemon game.

Given the portable nature of the Switch, I really don't see why they wouldn't; if the Switch doesn't work out, they could always go back to restricting it to some handheld, but at a certain point you gotta put a few chips on the table and gamble on a piece of hardware (Switch) that you clearly put a ton of work into and actually shows a great deal of promise.

I know Nintendo aren't the gambling sort, but this is the time for them to reestablish themselves... it's not as if they got to where they are today playing it safe.



StarOcean said:
160rmf said:

Why don't you play Zelda BOTW in your phone, then?

I really hope that's sarcasm and if so it's a poor attempt. You know exactly what is meant, as a portable a smartphone does the job better than the Switch. It can run it's primary function without its battery being eaten so fast. The primary function of the Switch should not eat its battery in 3-4hrs. Thats pathetic for a 'portable'

Yeah, you are right. 3-4 hrs nonstop playing a huge game like Zelda is pretty pathetic for a mobile device.



 

 

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160rmf said:
StarOcean said:

I really hope that's sarcasm and if so it's a poor attempt. You know exactly what is meant, as a portable a smartphone does the job better than the Switch. It can run it's primary function without its battery being eaten so fast. The primary function of the Switch should not eat its battery in 3-4hrs. Thats pathetic for a 'portable'

Yeah, you are right. 3-4 hrs nonstop playing a huge game like Zelda is pretty pathetic for a mobile device.

It is. It's not portable if its battery is that shitty. It needs, at minimum to be able to play BotW for 6-7hrs like the 3DS before it needs a charge. If Nintendo can't make a decent handheld they should have kept the Switch a home console. But if you like playing a portable constantly on its lifeline of a charger, then good for you. But as a handheld it fails



Dulfite said:
Soundwave said:
Lets also put some context into the "3DS is selling well" ... it's shipping like 6 million a year. That's not exactly anything to throw a party over. It's doing ok, "ok" like a 75 year old that's still able to walk around and do stuff, yeah great, but it's not exactly lifting any heavy weight.

Yea but production costs I'm sure are at an all time low for the 3ds, making them make more profit per sale, meaning they don't have to sell as much as say the first year. I'm curious if someone did a profit x number sold comparison, year by year, what it has looked like this past year, but I suppose no one can do that due to Nintendo not really telling us these days how much profit they are selling 3ds at.

Soundwave has made a mistake...

3DS shipped 7.1m in 2014 ( New 3ds xl in Japan/ASIA/OCEANIA ) , 7.5m in 2015 ( New 3dsl xl release in the west ) and 7.4m in 2016 ( Pokemon go+Pokemon sun +moon ) while it was anticipated to sell 5m in 2016 but Nintendo didn't expected the pokemon go effect and later the Pokemon S/M effect boosted by the super popular mobile game...

3DS has an exceptional sales stability since 2014.

3DS sold more in 2016 ( 5th-6th  year with the switch on the way ) than in 2014 and close to 2015 when it had hardware revision release! That's insignificant?

( Calendar years )



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StarOcean said:
160rmf said:

Yeah, you are right. 3-4 hrs nonstop playing a huge game like Zelda is pretty pathetic for a mobile device.

It is. It's not portable

It is a portable. Just because it doesn't match your exceptional needs of a 7 hrs BoTW longplay outside your home with no plug ins for charging available, it doesn't change its handheld nature.



 

 

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Soundwave said:
jonathanalis said:
Yeah
They will keep 3DS until we have technology to shrink it to a more handheld friendly form device at a handheld friendly price. and then it will be great hit.

Switch is already a huge hit. Maybe just maybe the whole "bigger form factor with console quality games" is actually what people want? 

This thing just thrashed any non-December 3DS month I believe. 

Switch is the future, 3DS/DS/GBA SP are the past. Rinky dink cheap little portables with small screens that fold into child size jeans is the past. Switch and the form factor that it brings, with a large display that allows one to enjoy even high quality console games is the future. 

We've been so quick to push this narrative of Switch needs to learn this from the 3DS, Switch needs to adopt that from the 3DS ... well to me it looks like 3DS is the one that might be needing to take some notes. 

i could have sworn a couple weeks ago you used Vita as an argument that people dont want console type games in a portable form factor. you have got to be the most inconsistent person on this site.



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160rmf said:
Fededx said:
Actually, outside Pikmin, Fire Emblem and Ever Oasis, Nintendo is 100% with the switch... And outside some japanese games being translated in the future, Nintendo isn't gonna produce any other 3ds game...

Ever Oasis isn't being produced by Nintendo, even this Pikmin game neither, I think

Both are published, I meant published by Nintendo, not produced. My mistake! And luckily, DQXI will be published by Nintendo as well 



Soundwave said:
jonathanalis said:
Yeah
They will keep 3DS until we have technology to shrink it to a more handheld friendly form device at a handheld friendly price. and then it will be great hit.

Switch is already a huge hit. Maybe just maybe the whole "bigger form factor with console quality games" is actually what people want? 

This thing just thrashed any non-December 3DS month I believe. 

Switch is the future, 3DS/DS/GBA SP are the past. Rinky dink cheap little portables with small screens that fold into child size jeans is the past. Switch and the form factor that it brings, with a large display that allows one to enjoy even high quality console games is the future. 

We've been so quick to push this narrative of Switch needs to learn this from the 3DS, Switch needs to adopt that from the 3DS ... well to me it looks like 3DS is the one that might be needing to take some notes. 

This looks like a massively egregious case of thinking about your wishes over the regular consumer base.

No, the future of handhelds isnt to buy a system that costs twice as much as the 3DS right now and has games that also cost twice as much, since even small stuff like Bomerman costs $50 dollars, and then have paid online on top of it.

Handheld owners wont just run to the Switch if the 3DS died, and dropping it now will most likely lead to Ninty jst losing those customers. The handheld market is more than just "we'll buy anything if it has a battery life." and the Switch absolutely needs to learn from the 3DS if it wants to get the handheld crowd in the future.



Smear-Gel said:
Soundwave said:

Switch is already a huge hit. Maybe just maybe the whole "bigger form factor with console quality games" is actually what people want? 

This thing just thrashed any non-December 3DS month I believe. 

Switch is the future, 3DS/DS/GBA SP are the past. Rinky dink cheap little portables with small screens that fold into child size jeans is the past. Switch and the form factor that it brings, with a large display that allows one to enjoy even high quality console games is the future. 

We've been so quick to push this narrative of Switch needs to learn this from the 3DS, Switch needs to adopt that from the 3DS ... well to me it looks like 3DS is the one that might be needing to take some notes. 

This looks like a massively egregious case of thinking about your wishes over the regular consumer base.

No, the future of handhelds isnt to buy a system that costs twice as much as the 3DS right now and has games that also cost twice as much, since even small stuff like Bomerman costs $50 dollars, and then have paid online on top of it.

Handheld owners wont just run to the Switch if the 3DS died, and dropping it now will most likely lead to Ninty jst losing those customers. The handheld market is more than just "we'll buy anything if it has a battery life." and the Switch absolutely needs to learn from the 3DS if it wants to get the handheld crowd in the future.

Couldn't have put it better... His comment oozes so much selfishness!

You pre-empted me from saying all these! :)

Neverethless, I would add in that, that I refer to the handheld consoles gamers that don't give a damn for home gaming on tv or high end graphics... If you're interested in both gaming ways, switch is a great deal, unless you want a more portable hanhdled part...