"3.0-3.5GHz Ryzen CPU"

Lul

What? Did everyone forget that the ps4/x1 launched with APU CPUs when there were desktop AMD CPUs available? Why do people think that all of a sudden, the Scorpio is going to be any different? Firstly, I doubt it will even be zen based and even if it is, it will be a weak sauce CPU. It will not be a Ryzen 7 1700 packed into it or anything close to that. Better than ps4/x1? Of course but nothing to be zomged about.

The way that both MS and Sony probably chooses console parts is that, they have a fixed budget on how much a console will cost say $400. So within that budget, they need to pack in as many things as possible. You can't sell framerate so their focus goes on GPU and not really CPU. So what they most likely do is that they think "Hmm, what CPU can we put it in so that it can at least achieve 30fps in most games and what GPU can we put in so that the games look great?" So I wouldn't get my hopes up very much on the CPU department.

As for the console itself, all that Scorpio will do imo is that in its best case scenario, it will have ps4 level graphical quality, just bumped up to 4k and it will have ps4 pro 1080p visual enhancements done at 1440p + checkerboard. The fps will be around the same as the Pro but maybe a bit more depending on the CPU and yea. Now that is nothing to scoff at but Sony certainly doesn't need to be worried imo.

Yep it is. Too bad it's still gonna sell worse.

I agree. Pretty sure its gonna be 499$... maybe 449$.

Honestly all Sony has to do is go for the 299$-349$ price range on the PS4pro, and its won.

I doubt people will want to pay 100-150$ extra for a Scorpio.

They don't need to respond. Sony is currently the market leader for home consoles. This is Microsoft's response to that.

And it means a whole lot of nothing when it costs more and has zero exclusive games.

the mass market doesn't care about that, that's why the ps4>ps4 pro

Speechless.

Nah, ps4 pro is not even the most desirable ps4 model...
even they didnt have pro they woldnt need to respond.

There's many possibilities in my opinion. Shooting from downtown on this one.

-PS4 SS ($199) and Pro S ($349) launch. E3 2017.
-PS4 SS ($199), Pro S Digital ($299), Pro 4k BD ($399). E3 2017.
-PS4 Portable teasers. Before E3 2018.
-PS4 Portable launch. E3 2018 ($249).
-PS5 teaser. Before E3 2019.
-PS5 launch. E3 2019. (8 core Zen+, 10Tflop Vega/Navi, 16gb HBM2 ?) ($399).
-PS Phone/Laptop teaser. Before E3 2020.
-PS Phone/Laptop launch. E3 2020.
OR
-PS4 SS ($199) and Pro S ($349) launch, E3 2017.
-PS4 SS ($199), Pro S Digital ($299), Pro 4k BD ($399). E3 2017.
-PS4 Ultra teasers. Before E3 2018.
-PS4 Ultra launch. E3 2018. (8or12 core Jag, 54cu 6.2Tflop Pitcairn/Polaris, 12gb DDR5(x) ?) ($399).
-PS4 Portable teasers. Before E3 2019. 
-PS4 Portable launch. E3 2019.  ($249)
-PS5 teaser. Before E3 2020.
-PS5 launch. E3 2020. (8 core Zen+, 12Tflop Navi, 16gb HBM3 ?) ($399).
-PS Phone/Laptop teaser. Before E3 2021.
-PS Phone/Laptop launch. E3 2021.

I do not think you mean quality wise but I have had a PS4 Pro since Day 1 and I can confirm that the difference it (can) make is 100% night and day. If a game uses its power well it is absolutely glorious.

This is not responding to you but just in general you do not need a 2000$ 4K tv for their to be a massive difference between the PS4 Pro and regular PS4 I have a Hisense 4K tv ( https://www.amazon.com/Hisense-50H8C-50-Inch-Ultra-Smart/dp/B01E6PGSGY/ref=pd_sbs_504_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=1WK4V5QV5JKG66G837QG ) and the difference is absolute night and day vs my LG 1080P tvs. The Hisense is a brilliant tv outside of the fact that its "smart" functions are awful. Personally, a Smart TV means nothing to me though I have Playstations, Xboxes, Roku 4, a Roku Stick, (another Roku Smart 4K TV) etc. But if a Smart TV is important to you I would probably pass on the Hisense