Azuren said:
VGPolyglot said:

Of course. Let's not pretend that I like the Democrats.

Could have fooled me. 

 

And probably everyone else. 

Well, if you look at my sig it'a pretty obvious.



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Mr Puggsly said:
vivster said:

All that matters is that Obamacare is better than the nothing that existed before. People should strive to fix the bad parts and not just abolish everything and come up with something completely new.

So what did the republicans do the past 7 years? Why didn't they work together on a solution? Why didn't they work together on the current shitty bill? Too busy trying to repeal something they have no proper replacement for?

Well... depends who you ask. Didn't work out great for everybody.

I'm not making excuses for republicans, its obvious they need to continue negotiating which is arguably for the best.

Eitherway, I assure you this is not the end. I think we'll see a lot of compromise as opposed to sticking with Obamacare.

They'll probably end up earmarking it to death with a bunch of unrelated stuff to bribe individuals into accepting a poorly thought out program.



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Tbf, nobody knew it could be so complicated.



Well the replacement plan was pretty shitty anyways. I don't think it even had the companies could sell insurance across state lines provision in it.  Might as well let the pill hungry Americans buy pills from Canada also.  Canada can be our prescription drug dealer.



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Tbf, nobody knew it could be so complicated.

Glad it only took him till Feb. 28th to realize that.



vivster said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Well... depends who you ask. Didn't work out great for everybody.

I'm not making excuses for republicans, its obvious they need to continue negotiating which is arguably for the best.

Eitherway, I assure you this is not the end. I think we'll see a lot of compromise as opposed to sticking with Obamacare.

I hope you realise that Obamacare is in part so bad because they had to forcibly compromise on it. Proper healthcare is all in or nothing. The original bill was gutted by Republicans until it no longer was effective enough.

Unless they make every single person in the country pay for nationwide healthcare via taxes it will always be shitty. But we both know Republicans do not have the balls to do that.

I'd argue Obamacare sucks from a lack of compromise and terrible ideas right out the gate.

I actually agree there should be a system where everybody pays into healthcare, but Obamacare isn't that.



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VGPolyglot said:
Tigerlure said:

Let's not pretend both parties are the same either. It's very clear who was on the right and wrong side of this legislation this time.

Well, it would have been better if the Democrats hadn't passed such a shitty health care in the first place.

Health care was always shity, way before the Dems became involved. America should go single payer.



Mr Puggsly said:
vivster said:

I hope you realise that Obamacare is in part so bad because they had to forcibly compromise on it. Proper healthcare is all in or nothing. The original bill was gutted by Republicans until it no longer was effective enough.

Unless they make every single person in the country pay for nationwide healthcare via taxes it will always be shitty. But we both know Republicans do not have the balls to do that.

I'd argue Obamacare sucks from a lack of compromise and terrible ideas right out the gate.

I actually agree there should be a system where everybody pays into healthcare, but Obamacare isn't that.

^ 100% agreed. In a way it feel s like Obamacare was purposely created to be hard to make future amendments and the such considering the labyrith of a bill  has around 2,000 pages. Any possible replacement plan will have difficulties making a smooth transition from it which is lamentable in the case when and if Obamacare does eventually fall apart under it's own weight.



For a guy who promised to "win so much, you'd be sick of all the winning", Trumpy sure seems to lose a lot.

It's almost as if governing is a lot more complicated than running a business where you answer to no one. No one could've possibly seen this coming.