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There's nothing anyone on this board can really do about it now, we're just going to have to wait and see how it goes. 

There's no rule that says Nintendo won't introduce more powerful Switch models, this is a new hardware direction for them, maybe the rules on hardware upgrades will change also, especially since Nintendo is no longer asking their fanbase to buy seperate consoles and portables. The Tegra X2 already exists and Nvidia is already close to finishing the Tegra Xavier (Tegra X3) which is even more powerful (this would be PS4 level performance in a portable device). 



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Mar1217 said:
I'm sorry, but I think this attempt is just as unnecessary as the last one.

In a year or so, I would hate to see so many ppl get screwed over again like with Wii U. I'm trying to convince ppl not to throw away their hard earned money.



niceguygameplayer said:
Platina said:
The question is, do we really need more discussion about this?

I tell you what Platina. It seems everyone is against me trying to help convince them to not waste their money on the Switch that I will make this my last Switch post for 6 months. I'd hate to see so many throw away money on an overpriced and underpowered system that I think will disappoint. After Nintendo screwed over Wii U owners, the thought makes me mad.

*sigh* Your posts read like a  kid trying to start a flame war online. Just stop making posts and topics like this. Please. It serves no purpose and who are you to decide for others what they like or not or even how they spend their money? Seriously stop.



Soundwave said:

There's nothing anyone on this board can really do about it now, we're just going to have to wait and see how it goes. 

There's no rule that says Nintendo won't introduce more powerful Switch models, this is a new hardware direction for them, maybe the rules on hardware upgrades will change also, especially since Nintendo is no longer asking their fanbase to buy seperate consoles and portables. The Tegra X2 already exists and Nvidia is already close to finishing the Tegra Xavier (Tegra X3) which is even more powerful (this would be PS4 level performance in a portable device). 

It is my opinion. I will apologize if I'm wrong. I want to help though.



SegataSanshiro said:
niceguygameplayer said:

I tell you what Platina. It seems everyone is against me trying to help convince them to not waste their money on the Switch that I will make this my last Switch post for 6 months. I'd hate to see so many throw away money on an overpriced and underpowered system that I think will disappoint. After Nintendo screwed over Wii U owners, the thought makes me mad.

*sigh* Your posts read like a  kid trying to start a flame war online. Just stop making posts and topics like this. Please. It serves no purpose and who are you to decide for others what they like or not or even how they spend their money? Seriously stop.

I'm trying to help ppl to not waste money. I'm not trying to just boss ppl around. I don't mean it like that. By the way, the Sega Genesis is my all time favorite system. I owned a Saturn too. I even imported Phantasy Star collection and Shining Force III scenerios 2 and 3. 



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niceguygameplayer said:
StarDoor said:
I agree. The Switch has really weak hardware. That's why it'll fail, just like the 3DS did with its 240p screen and sub-PS2 power.

Wait, the 3DS isn't a failure? It's already sold over 65 million units? Oh.

Well, people aren't going to put up with such weak hardware again. I mean, seriously, why does Nintendo always use hardware that's five+ years behind?

Wait, the Switch is a full generation ahead of the PS Vita, making it by far the most powerful handheld ever released? Oh.

Yeah, your argument here is terrible.

Yes, it is powerful for a portable, but the price is too much, and casuals with powerful smart phones have little need for Switch. The non-Nintendo core gamers will want PS4pro/Scorpio power. The pro could come down to $300-$350 with a game by year's end. That looks much better than $440 for a weak Switch with one game and a pro controller.

So you think the Pro is going to do so badly that Sony will have to cut its price by $100 to $150? It's at $400 without a game right now. And do you think that the Switch won't fall in price or have a game bundled by this year's end?

By the way, the Pro Controller is $70, not $80. It's also unnecessary, since the Switch comes with a full controller out of the box. This is like saying the PS4 Pro right now is really $520, because you need to buy a game and an extra controller for it.

niceguygameplayer said:
monocle_layton said:

What???

That is as ridiculous as the people who use the terms "fake news" or "alternative facts".

 

It's not an alternative. Many people are claiming this thing will flop easily. The thread will provide no useful discussion about the switch.

Let's continue this discussion in a year. I think you will see that I have valid points then. The usefulness, well possible usefulness, of this post is that it could help convince ppl to not throw away hard earned money for something that is likely to be a short lived fad. 

How is this a short-lived fad? Nintendo is going to exclusively support the Switch with first-party software for the next five years. You literally will not be able to play big Nintendo titles anywhere else. And if you're talking about the hardware itself, the concept of switching between a home console and a handheld is probably the best innovation Nintendo has ever done with a system based on the utility alone.

niceguygameplayer said:
Mar1217 said:
I'm sorry, but I think this attempt is just as unnecessary as the last one.

Ppl think I'm overdoing it now, but many of you may wish you'd listened to my side of this Switch debate when so much money has been spent and so little satisfaction has been had. I could be wrong, but I am passionate about this. Nintendo did ppl wrong with Wii U.

...What kind of arrogance does it take for someone to tell people that they aren't satisfied with their console? I, like many other people whose experiences you can read on this site, have already gotten over a hundred hours of fun playing Zelda on the Switch. Zelda alone has already given the Switch a better launch lineup than the Wii U and 3DS combined, and the games coming out this year are incredibly promising. This isn't even about potential sales: There is no chance in hell that Nintendo fans are going to be disappointed with the Switch. Zelda is one of the best games Nintendo has ever made (possibly THE best,) and we're also getting 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Splatoon, and Xenoblade in the same year.



StarOcean said:

You're better than that 

Is he, though? Afterall, he's posted this thread thinking this kind of dialogue is of any kind of help. I'm not against arguments on the contrary, just bad ones.



Soundwave said:

There's nothing anyone on this board can really do about it now, we're just going to have to wait and see how it goes. 

There's no rule that says Nintendo won't introduce more powerful Switch models, this is a new hardware direction for them, maybe the rules on hardware upgrades will change also, especially since Nintendo is no longer asking their fanbase to buy seperate consoles and portables. The Tegra X2 already exists and Nvidia is already close to finishing the Tegra Xavier (Tegra X3) which is even more powerful (this would be PS4 level performance in a portable device). 

Can people please use common sense and realize it will either do amazing, ok, or do bad? There's nothing else to discuss. Zero. Absolutely no topic in the past several months have been useful.

 

A mod should just lock this up. always the same arguments wash up.



niceguygameplayer said:
SegataSanshiro said:

*sigh* Your posts read like a  kid trying to start a flame war online. Just stop making posts and topics like this. Please. It serves no purpose and who are you to decide for others what they like or not or even how they spend their money? Seriously stop.

I'm trying to help ppl to not waste money.

Again who are you to judge that? I loved the Wii U,in fact I still do. I am getting a Switch and likely enjoy the hell out of it. I'm sorry but your opinion means fuck all because people don't like other people letting them decide for them. So again just stop,please with these topics.



mine said:
Nintendo had success with underpowered handhelds since handhelds were invented. Nobody cares about the hardware when the games are fun and unique. Nintendo has proven again and again. And the Switch has a stellar first year in games - something the Wii U lacked...

The differences are that 3DS saw a drop in success compared to past portables, due to smart phones. I expect this trend to continue. Also, the price is much higher. Lastly, the games lineup looks disappointing to me except for a few like Zelda, Mario, Street Fighter, and Dragon Ball Xenoverse.