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Goatseye said:
thismeintiel said:

Nazis are National Socialists.  It's their actual name.  Nationalism can come from all spectrums of politics, left or right.  However, Socialism is a tenant of the Left.  Of course, the extremes they took to get there is why they would be characterized as Alt-anything, as most people aren't going to go that far for their ideology.

-Nazis were Nativist/Xenophobic =/= not tenent of left

-They banned communists and socialists in Germany =/= not tenent of left

-They don't believe in equality =/= not tenent of left

The early 20th century Progressives on the left definitely were xenophobic and didn't believe in equality.  They believed in a master race and thought eugenics was a moral practice.  Just like the Nazis.  Then, you had the left passing laws to oppress minorities in the South, like Jim Crow laws.  And did the Nazis ban every single group?  Or just those opposed to their view of Nationalism/Socialism?  You see, this is what happens in a lot of countries that try to go full socialist.  It's supposed to be about the common man being in charge and all for one.  Or in some practices it is about a government, supposedly controlled by the people, controlling the facets of every part of the country for the "better good."  But it turns out the same way every time.  A small group of those in charge dictate to those in the working class how to live their lives.  Lives that are usually lived in squalor or not far above it, while those in charge enjoy great wealth.  And they have zero tolerance for those who oppose them, meaning either prison or death, or both.

Granted this may all be down to a difference in the definition for left or right between the US and other parts of the world.  But from my POV, the Nazis have more in common with the the left of the early-mid 20th century, than they do the right.



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I didn't agree with all of his politics but I respect the fact that he was unafraid to voice his opinions on controversial issues. BTW, he's not a Trump supporter. He despises Trump. He voted for Johnson in the election.

Anyway OT, this comes as a pretty big surprise for me. He's been talking about how successful Kinda Funny has become lately. He seemed proud to have been part of that success.



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ClassicGamingWizzz said:
He made the lame joke but that was not the problem, he made the lame joke to provoke a reaction on people and to make fun of womans march with the hashtag. He is such a douche that apologies is not for him, instead he called everyone who didnt like the joke "humourless sacks of shit".

He now have a huge halt right/gamergate fanbase following him, the type to vomite shit like "get triggered" , "feminism is a cancer" and anti-muslim garbage. Its like a cult. 

The others ofcourse didnt like it, he cant get criticism and the snowflake now can go to breitbart and start there a gaming section.

One shuld never apologise for a joke. If a joke is in poor taste, ignore it and move on. Jokes should live and die on what people find funny. If people don't find it funny, it will die on it's own. It's ridiculous how every other joke has to start a controversy.

Same sitation as with Pewdiepie, yes, his humor is trash, but if you don't like it, ignore it and move on with your life. Instead of looking for problems where there aren't any. I looked up what Pewdiepie is doing after the incident of WSJ trying to ruin his career over poor taste jokes, and he seems to not care anymore, and just go completely over the top with his tasteless humor even more so than before. And I am glad for it.



thismeintiel said:
Goatseye said:

-Nazis were Nativist/Xenophobic =/= not tenent of left

-They banned communists and socialists in Germany =/= not tenent of left

-They don't believe in equality =/= not tenent of left

The early 20th century Progressives on the left definitely were xenophobic and didn't believe in equality.  They believed in a master race and thought eugenics was a moral practice.  Just like the Nazis.  Then, you had the left passing laws to oppress minorities in the South, like Jim Crow laws.  And did the Nazis ban every single group?  Or just those opposed to their view of Nationalism/Socialism?  You see, this is what happens in a lot of countries that try to go full socialist.  It's supposed to be about the common man being in charge and all for one.  Or in some practices it is about a government, supposedly controlled by the people, controlling the facets of every part of the country for the "better good."  But it turns out the same way every time.  A small group of those in charge dictate to those in the working class how to live their lives.  Lives that are usually lived in squalor or not far above it, while those in charge enjoy great wealth.  And they have zero tolerance for those who oppose them, meaning either prison or death, or both.

Granted this may all be down to a difference in the definition for left or right between the US and other parts of the world.  But from my POV, the Nazis have more in common with the the left of the early-mid 20th century, than they do the right.

1. Your mistaking Democrat with liberal. The parties have swapped political ideologies more than once in American history and things like the civil rights movement were inherently liberal ideals. You think all the liberals just up and became conservatives after the Jim Crow laws went away?

2. The Nazis weren't a left leaning group. Their economics were largely based on privatization and breaking up labor groups, they were big fans of military spending "duh" and they were very heavily focused on moral standards. All right wing ideals.

3. The Nazis being right wing in the 30's and 40's doesn't really hold much bearing on the alt-right being right wing. Unless you think calling liberals "snowflake SJW cucks" is a term of endearment.



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Normchacho said:
thismeintiel said:

The early 20th century Progressives on the left definitely were xenophobic and didn't believe in equality.  They believed in a master race and thought eugenics was a moral practice.  Just like the Nazis.  Then, you had the left passing laws to oppress minorities in the South, like Jim Crow laws.  And did the Nazis ban every single group?  Or just those opposed to their view of Nationalism/Socialism?  You see, this is what happens in a lot of countries that try to go full socialist.  It's supposed to be about the common man being in charge and all for one.  Or in some practices it is about a government, supposedly controlled by the people, controlling the facets of every part of the country for the "better good."  But it turns out the same way every time.  A small group of those in charge dictate to those in the working class how to live their lives.  Lives that are usually lived in squalor or not far above it, while those in charge enjoy great wealth.  And they have zero tolerance for those who oppose them, meaning either prison or death, or both.

Granted this may all be down to a difference in the definition for left or right between the US and other parts of the world.  But from my POV, the Nazis have more in common with the the left of the early-mid 20th century, than they do the right.

1. Your mistaking Democrat with liberal. The parties have swapped political ideologies more than once in American history and things like the civil rights movement were inherently liberal ideals. You think all the liberals just up and became conservatives after the Jim Crow laws went away?

2. The Nazis weren't a left leaning group. Their economics were largely based on privatization and breaking up labor groups, they were big fans of military spending "duh" and they were very heavily focused on moral standards. All right wing ideals.

3. The Nazis being right wing in the 30's and 40's doesn't really hold much bearing on the alt-right being right wing. Unless you think calling liberals "snowflake SJW cucks" is a term of endearment.

1. The Progressives took over the word liberal because people started not liking the Progressives and their ideas.  Classic liberals are more like the Libertarians of today.  So, yes, classic liberalism played a part in the Civil Rights movement.  As did many Republicans and Conservatives, as well as a few Democrats who weren't prejudice.

2.  The government having complete control over the ends and outs of the economy and businesses are exactly what many Socialists are about and is what the Nazis wanted, too.  All done in the name of the common man.  They allowed businesses to function normally as long as they supported them.  The second you started opposing them, you were gone.  And don't be silly, Socialist countries are big into military/police spending, too.  How do you think they keep their people in line?  Control dissent?  Also, focused on morals standards?  What political party doesn't try to use moral standards to push their agenda?  Here's a hint, none.  Hell, the point of Socialism is supposed to be about "equality" for all and for the greater good.

3. Really missing the point of this one.  Either I'm too tired or you worded this weird.

I am going to have o cut the convo here, though.  It's late here, but more importantly, we probably should get back to what this thread was actually about.  Some guy.



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ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Profrektius said:

One shuld never apologise for a joke. If a joke is in poor taste, ignore it and move on. Jokes should live and die on what people find funny. If people don't find it funny, it will die on it's own. It's ridiculous how every other joke has to start a controversy.

Same sitation as with Pewdiepie, yes, his humor is trash, but if you don't like it, ignore it and move on with your life. Instead of looking for problems where there aren't any. I looked up what Pewdiepie is doing after the incident of WSJ trying to ruin his career over poor taste jokes, and he seems to not care anymore, and just go completely over the top with his tasteless humor even more so than before. And I am glad for it.

I get he didnt needed to apologise to a joke that was not funny but people have to right to not laugh at it or in this case they told him the joke was lame. And what did he do? Called them humourless sacks of shit for no finding a lame dad joke funny. The joke was not the problem but his behaviour after the joke. For a dude that made a joke to provoke a reaction he sure does not know how to deal with criticism. I dont think it woulb be drama if he didnt made the second tweet. Its sad to see this to be honest.

Hard for me to even have a good perspective on this since I mostly stay away from all internet drama bs. In the end both sides will be convinced more than before that they are right, and hate the other side for it.

It just frustrates me when things like this start, and people just can't get along, but I guess that's the internet for us.



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ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Profrektius said:

One shuld never apologise for a joke. If a joke is in poor taste, ignore it and move on. Jokes should live and die on what people find funny. If people don't find it funny, it will die on it's own. It's ridiculous how every other joke has to start a controversy.

Same sitation as with Pewdiepie, yes, his humor is trash, but if you don't like it, ignore it and move on with your life. Instead of looking for problems where there aren't any. I looked up what Pewdiepie is doing after the incident of WSJ trying to ruin his career over poor taste jokes, and he seems to not care anymore, and just go completely over the top with his tasteless humor even more so than before. And I am glad for it.

I get he didnt needed to apologise to a joke that was not funny but people have to right to not laugh at it or in this case they told him the joke was lame. And what did he do? Called them humourless sacks of shit for no finding a lame dad joke funny. The joke was not the problem but his behaviour after the joke. For a dude that made a joke to provoke a reaction he sure does not know how to deal with criticism. I dont think it woulb be drama if he didnt made the second tweet. Its sad to see this to be honest.

False. He called those who were so completely offended by it, "humorless sacks of shit". I don't really feel like that's even a mean statement. If something as dumb as his joke gets you on your high horse, then your life sounds miserable.



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thismeintiel said:
Normchacho said:

1. Your mistaking Democrat with liberal. The parties have swapped political ideologies more than once in American history and things like the civil rights movement were inherently liberal ideals. You think all the liberals just up and became conservatives after the Jim Crow laws went away?

2. The Nazis weren't a left leaning group. Their economics were largely based on privatization and breaking up labor groups, they were big fans of military spending "duh" and they were very heavily focused on moral standards. All right wing ideals.

3. The Nazis being right wing in the 30's and 40's doesn't really hold much bearing on the alt-right being right wing. Unless you think calling liberals "snowflake SJW cucks" is a term of endearment.

1. The Progressives took over the word liberal because people started not liking the Progressives and their ideas.  Classic liberals are more like the Libertarians of today.  So, yes, classic liberalism played a part in the Civil Rights movement.  As did many Republicans and Conservatives, as well as a few Democrats who weren't prejudice.

2.  The government having complete control over the ends and outs of the economy and businesses are exactly what many Socialists are about and is what the Nazis wanted, too.  All done in the name of the common man.  They allowed businesses to function normally as long as they supported them.  The second you started opposing them, you were gone.  And don't be silly, Socialist countries are big into military/police spending, too.  How do you think they keep their people in line?  Control dissent?  Also, focused on morals standards?  What political party doesn't try to use moral standards to push their agenda?  Here's a hint, none.  Hell, the point of Socialism is supposed to be about "equality" for all and for the greater good.

3. Really missing the point of this one.  Either I'm too tired or you worded this weird.

I am going to have o cut the convo here, though.  It's late here, but more importantly, we probably should get back to what this thread was actually about.  Some guy.

Progressivism is a term that encompasses a wide spectrum of social movements that include environmentalism, labor, anti-poverty, peace, anti-racism, civil rights, women’s rights, animal rights, social justice and political ideologies such as anarchism, communism, socialism, social democracy, and liberalism.

 

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