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The review has a few valid points. A couple... Not so.


Will be interesting to see the final review.



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Normchacho said:
Goodnightmoon said:

And you are ignoring that some things just make no snese period, to put it vertically would kill the way Switch is supposed to work



Use your brains, try to think how to put this vertically without killing the easy and intuitive way in which you dock and undock the console, and try to think how the hell it would be better if the jack adaptor was on the bottom when no one can reach it when is docked. 

But no, you consider this legitim complains, as expected, but to question opinions is not something about being narrowminded, is about being able to see the flaws of an opinion, because no, not all opinions are right, that is a very narrowminded and simplistic way to think, if I say Ps4 is shit because it cannot be used portably, I'm entitled to my opinion, that doesn't make it right, and certainly anyone that comes to question the validity of what I said is not automatically narrowminded.

You see, you're mistaking being affected by the consequences of a design decision with not understanding a design decision.

I get WHY the Switch is designed the way it is, but that doesn't mean the issue just goes away. It's still there and therefore still worth mentioning. Just like the original Xbox One not being able to be stood up on it's side was worth mentioning.

And here is where he is being narrowminded, he seems to be against the whole hybrid concept to beging with, that's why he complains about things that are completley logic for an hybrid, and instead of thinking that maybe he just doesn't need an hybrid on his life he actually writes an article on the most visited videogame web of NA exposing this as legitim complains for anyone, this is suposed to be valorated in a neutral way where personal nitpicks have no space, but he cant get pass the fact that this is an hybrid and not a traditional console or hanheld. 



Goodnightmoon said:
Normchacho said:

You see, you're mistaking being affected by the consequences of a design decision with not understanding a design decision.

I get WHY the Switch is designed the way it is, but that doesn't mean the issue just goes away. It's still there and therefore still worth mentioning. Just like the original Xbox One not being able to be stood up on it's side was worth mentioning.

And here is where he is being narrowminded, he seems to be against the whole hybrid concept to beging with, that's why he complains about things that are completley logic for an hybrid, and instead of thinking that maybe he just doesn't need an hybrid on his life he actually writes an article on the most visited videogame web of NA exposing this as legitim complains for anyone, this is suposed to be valorated in a neutral way where personal nitpicks have no space, but he cant get pass the fact that this is an hybrid and not a traditional console or hanheld. 

Horseshit. Designing the dock in such a way that it cannot be placed horizontally means it was designed without the consideration of anyone who keeps their consoles in a TV stand. If your setup accomodates that, then wonderful for you, but for millions of people, this will be a pain in the ass. That shows a lack of foresight with Nintendo. See your problem here is that your original bias is that Nintendo knows better than the people using this product, therefore people that find this annoying just aren't using it the right way, or are being obtuse, when in reality, it's a legitmate annoyance that Nintendo dropped the ball on.

Furthermore, I don't know why you think that just because it's a hybrid, the reviewer has to be willing to accept what he considers a poorer experience in each game play mode than he knows it would be if Nintendo just made a home console, or just made a handheld. Your stance is that a hybrid is supposed to make concessions in every more to allow for versatility, whereas the reviewer either doesn't agree, or believes that the concessions outweigh the versatility. This is the kind of opinion you can draw when you actually have experience using the console, rather than the mental picture you have of you playing a Switch and loving every minute of it without a single issue that you're not willing to accept.

TL;DR Just because you're willing to accept the concessions Nintendo had to make to make the Switch doesn't mean the reviewer is wrong for being unwilling to accept them.



Goodnightmoon said:
Normchacho said:

You see, you're mistaking being affected by the consequences of a design decision with not understanding a design decision.

I get WHY the Switch is designed the way it is, but that doesn't mean the issue just goes away. It's still there and therefore still worth mentioning. Just like the original Xbox One not being able to be stood up on it's side was worth mentioning.

And here is where he is being narrowminded, he seems to be against the whole hybrid concept to beging with, that's why he complains about things that are completley logic for an hybrid, and instead of thinking that maybe he just doesn't need an hybrid on his life he actually writes an article on the most visited videogame web of NA exposing this as legitim complains for anyone, this is suposed to be valorated in a neutral way where personal nitpicks have no space, but he cant get pass the fact that this is an hybrid and not a traditional console or hanheld. 

Whether he's being narrow minded is besides the point. The point, is that complaining about someone else being narrow minded about the Switch while also being narrow minded about the Switch is hypocritical.



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Normchacho said:
Goodnightmoon said:

And here is where he is being narrowminded, he seems to be against the whole hybrid concept to beging with, that's why he complains about things that are completley logic for an hybrid, and instead of thinking that maybe he just doesn't need an hybrid on his life he actually writes an article on the most visited videogame web of NA exposing this as legitim complains for anyone, this is suposed to be valorated in a neutral way where personal nitpicks have no space, but he cant get pass the fact that this is an hybrid and not a traditional console or hanheld. 

Whether he's being narrow minded is besides the point. The point, is that complaining about someone else being narrow minded about the Switch while also being narrow minded about the Switch is hypocritical.

To point the flaws of an opinion, as I said before, is not being narrowminded.



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Goodnightmoon said:
Normchacho said:

Whether he's being narrow minded is besides the point. The point, is that complaining about someone else being narrow minded about the Switch while also being narrow minded about the Switch is hypocritical.

To point the flaws of an opinion, as I said before, is not being narrowminded.

But it's not a difference of opinion, it's a difference of situation.

Let me put it this way. If then disk drive was on the side of the PS4,  would it be a problem for everyone? No. Would it be a problem for those it inconveniences? Yes. Even if Sony had a good reason for having it on the side, that wouldn't change the reality of the situation, or the problems it would create.



Bet with Adamblaziken:

I bet that on launch the Nintendo Switch will have no built in in-game voice chat. He bets that it will. The winner gets six months of avatar control over the other user.

I'd rank the Nintendo day 1 launches as such (out of 10)

NES - 9 (I will estimate here because I didn't get an NES until 1989). 

Super NES - 9

Game Boy - 8

Nintendo 64 - 7.5

Game Boy Advance - 6.5 (docked points for really shitty screen)

GameCube - 8

Nintendo DS - 6.5

Wii - 8.5

Nintendo 3DS - 6.5

Wii U - 7.5

I think for me Switch will probably be between 7 to 8. 

 



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Goodnightmoon said:
Normchacho said:

Whether he's being narrow minded is besides the point. The point, is that complaining about someone else being narrow minded about the Switch while also being narrow minded about the Switch is hypocritical.

To point the flaws of an opinion, as I said before, is not being narrowminded.

It is, because you're ignoring the fact that some people would prefer to place it horizontaly. The device should accomodate the users, not the other way around. Heck, on this very forum there are people who have said they will primarily be using it as a home console, not as a handheld. The ability to easily take it out of the dock will, in those cases, be almost completely irrelevant, while the fact it can't be placed in a TV stand could very well be a deal breaker. And that's really something that is easily fixable with no additional cost, as long as it was thought about during the design process.



The Guy at IGN doesn't like the handheld/home console philosophy, he then gets to review it..