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bonzobanana said:
Wipeout on ps3 did pretty much the same blistering 60fps 1080p, dynamic resolution scaling that only occured very rarely plus added a full 7.1 soundtrack and supported 3D mode.

I wasn't impressed with Fast Racing Neo graphically on wii u and probably the same on Switch.

These type of games are achieved on fairly humble hardware and not a good indicator of performance level.

Games that have both huge gpu and cpu requirements creating a complex world with a physics engine and weather and time effects are a real test. That's why something like Skyrim is far more important to judge the Switch performance level than this game. Skyrim is also directly comparable with many other versions to see in which areas it wins or fails. We will learn much more from that game than this one.

Didn't help Psygnosis in the end.  FRN is done by a much smaller studio and looks way better than Wipeout.



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Nuvendil said:
Miyamotoo said:Going from 4 players - 720p/30fps on Wii U, to 4 players - 1080p/60fps with better graphics on Switch, is very big boost and tells us that Switch hardware is much more capable than Wii Us.

 Not only that, but "with much more details enabled".

Sub 720p. One of the tricks they pulled was faking resolution a bit, using a technique not too dissimilar from what Killzone Shadowfall used.  This statement plus direct feed footage indicate that trick is not in use with FAST RMX which means it is rendering at a full 1080p resolution. 

And the idea that a multiplat is the most reliable guage of power for a system is kinda silly.  That's what led some early on to conclude the PS3 was weaker than the 360.  I mean, the PS3 version of Skyrim ran like crap and looked inferior for freaking months, I love Bethesda but they are no wizards.  They've gotten better though.

Exclusives by studios who know what they are doing are always the best guage of the actual capabilities of a platform.  And that goes for Switch, PS4, Xbone, 3DS, any platform.

Well said.



He is saying this is happening on TV mode. Who knows what it will be when its not connected to the dock.



bunchanumbers said:
He is saying this is happening on TV mode. Who knows what it will be when its not connected to the dock.

He talking about TV mode because he is comparing it to Wii U, on portable mode probably all that just at 720p.



Nice, sounds great to me!



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bonzobanana said:
Wipeout on ps3 did pretty much the same blistering 60fps 1080p, dynamic resolution scaling that only occured very rarely plus added a full 7.1 soundtrack and supported 3D mode.

I wasn't impressed with Fast Racing Neo graphically on wii u and probably the same on Switch.

These type of games are achieved on fairly humble hardware and not a good indicator of performance level.

Games that have both huge gpu and cpu requirements creating a complex world with a physics engine and weather and time effects are a real test. That's why something like Skyrim is far more important to judge the Switch performance level than this game. Skyrim is also directly comparable with many other versions to see in which areas it wins or fails. We will learn much more from that game than this one.

Pretty much. Shinen is overrated.



Rogerioandrade said:
Split-screen on a racing game..... apart from Mario Kart 8, we have not seen that frequently lately.

I really miss that. Every racing game should have split screen and local multiplayer.

Agreed! Every shooter too :)



spemanig said:
bonzobanana said:
Wipeout on ps3 did pretty much the same blistering 60fps 1080p, dynamic resolution scaling that only occured very rarely plus added a full 7.1 soundtrack and supported 3D mode.

I wasn't impressed with Fast Racing Neo graphically on wii u and probably the same on Switch.

These type of games are achieved on fairly humble hardware and not a good indicator of performance level.

Games that have both huge gpu and cpu requirements creating a complex world with a physics engine and weather and time effects are a real test. That's why something like Skyrim is far more important to judge the Switch performance level than this game. Skyrim is also directly comparable with many other versions to see in which areas it wins or fails. We will learn much more from that game than this one.

Pretty much. Shinen is overrated.

Basicly nothing he wroted doesnt make sense.

-Fast Racing Neo looks much better than Wipeout, it has much more modern graphic and definitely is much more demanding game, also Fast Racing Neo has 4 player split screen runing on 60 fps on Switch while Wipeout only 2 player split screen.

-Point is that on Wii U game runing at 720p/30fps and on Switch is 1080p/60fps with better graphics, thats good indicator about difrence in posibites of Switch compared to Wii U.

-Multiplatform (espacily Bethesda) game cannot be indicator of Switch performance. Far more important are exclusive games that are actualy done good, not same lazy ports.

If we talking about pushing hardware, Shinen definatly is not overrated.



Rogerioandrade said:
Split-screen on a racing game..... apart from Mario Kart 8, we have not seen that frequently lately.

I really miss that. Every racing game should have split screen and local multiplayer.

Truly.



Will be cool to see what their next Switch game looks like, once they have more experience with the hardware and build it from the ground up.

There was considerable technical improvement from their first Wii U game, Nano Assault Neo, to their later ones, Art of Balance and FRN.