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Forums - Politics - So, Trump's ban on certain nationalities is in effect.

 

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Good! 145 35.02%
 
Get rid of this as fast as possible. 200 48.31%
 
Needs more exceptions 25 6.04%
 
List needs to be redone 44 10.63%
 
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Scoobes on 29 January 2017
areason said:
Scoobes said:

Really don't think you understand what a democracy is. Just because you win an election doesn't mean you have to put up and shut up for the whole of that individual/party's term. 

Winning an election doesn't mean you get free reign over all policies. You don't stop campaigning if you disagree with his policies. You debate, you protest and you oppose. That's the whole point of an oppposition party; to hold the governing party to account. Protesting is a way for people to show both parties how they feel before they act. 

 @ bolded

No one likes that, but considering the numbers protesting, how many are actually engaging in criminal activity?

Blocking a whole airport terminal because people are "outraged" isn't protesting it is organized descent. 

You're going to have to show a link. All the stuff I've seen has been peaceful and shows a clear entry and exit path for people. 




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Lucas-Rio on 29 January 2017
naruball said:
Lucas-Rio said:

Hitler's mention in a topic = Godwin point

Please be reasonnable.

Call it a Godwin point or whatever you want. It doesn't change the fact that you didn't answer the question.

Also, interesting how you single out liberals who won't shut up about Trump when for 8 years all Republicans did was tell us how Obama was the worst thing that ever happened to America. I assume you told them, too, that they should shut up because he was elected by the people, right?

Not a rhetorical question, btw. I expect an answer.

Republican opposed Obama through the parliament.

I don't remember them setting up so many protest one week after Obama inauguration.



Peh on 29 January 2017
areason said:
Peh said:

How do you determine who is who? How do you check those backrounds of the refugees without letting them into your country?

By your logic people should arrive to a country and then apply for a visa. 

Well, they can't stay at home and wait for asylum while "ISIS" runs over their town burning it down and chopping people heads off, now can they?

Did you saw videos of mass execution done by them? If you are not fast enough of getting away, you are done for. It's not pretty.



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areason on 29 January 2017
Scoobes said:
areason said:

Blocking a whole airport terminal because people are "outraged" isn't protesting it is organized descent. 

You're going to have to show a link. All the stuff I've seen has been peaceful and shows a clear entry and exit path for people. 

Not gonna spend time searching for images of people inside the terminal, but : https://twitter.com/RobertMackey/status/825494155568807937 

Small entry and exit paths doesn't make the situation better when it is one of the most active airports in the world. 



foodfather on 29 January 2017

The ban needed to happen.

But the fact that Afghanistan pakistan and saudi arabia are not on the list is a travesty. Trump is just as duplicitous as Clinton. A disappointment indeed.



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Scoobes on 29 January 2017
Lucas-Rio said:
naruball said:

Call it a Godwin point or whatever you want. It doesn't change the fact that you didn't answer the question.

Also, interesting how you single out liberals who won't shut up about Trump when for 8 years all Republicans did was tell us how Obama was the worst thing that ever happened to America. I assume you told them, too, that they should shut up because he was elected by the people, right?

Not a rhetorical question, btw. I expect an answer.

Republican opposed Obama through the parliament.

I don't remember them setting up so many protest one week after Obama inauguration.

Yeah, sure. There was no protesting or dissent whatsoever.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2009/racist-backlash-greets-president-barack-obama

http://www.revelist.com/politics/america-responds-obama/5855/what-an-accepting-pun/2

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/08/us/anti-obama-protest-at-university-of-mississippi-turns-unruly.html




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areason on 29 January 2017
Peh said:
areason said:

By your logic people should arrive to a country and then apply for a visa. 

Well, they can't stay at home and wait for asylum while "ISIS" runs over their town burning it down and chopping people heads off, now can they?

Did you saw videos of mass execution done by them? If you are not fast enough of getting away, you are done for. It's not pretty.

You do know that before getting to America they have to actually travel, by land sea or air. On the road they have plenty of time to send their information if they do have any. 



areason on 29 January 2017
foodfather said:
The ban needed to happen.

But the fact that Afghanistan pakistan and saudi arabia are not on the list is a travesty. Trump is just as duplicitous as Clinton. A disappointment indeed.

The ban on refugees is for all refugees, so other countries would be affected. 

The ban on visas is more of a suspension  of visas towards those countries. 



Scoobes on 29 January 2017
areason said:
Scoobes said:

You're going to have to show a link. All the stuff I've seen has been peaceful and shows a clear entry and exit path for people. 

Not gonna spend time searching for images of people inside the terminal, but : https://twitter.com/RobertMackey/status/825494155568807937 

Small entry and exit paths doesn't make the situation better when it is one of the most active airports in the world. 

Crowded but the roads look clear. Would question where the police/crowd control are in there though. 

The inside images are the ones I'd already seen where there seemed to be barriers in place with set paths. Guess it varies from airport to airport though. 

My main concern would be overcrowding and crushing. 




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Scoobes on 29 January 2017
foodfather said:
The ban needed to happen.

But the fact that Afghanistan pakistan and saudi arabia are not on the list is a travesty. Trump is just as duplicitous as Clinton. A disappointment indeed.

Why?




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