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Has the law been broken?

Yes. PS4 beat XB1. 81 53.64%
 
No. PS4 beat Scorpio. 70 46.36%
 
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Azelover on 23 January 2017
Jpcc86 said:
d21lewis said:

PS1 was 32-Bit.

I can't remember what the Nintendo 64 was.

Yet average PS1 games use more polygons than average N64 games and N64 texture resolutions are lower. Not to mention a PS1's cd-rom could hold 660m and the largest n64 cartridges could only hold 64mb. Gee, I wonder why the Nintendo 64 chose that path. 

 

More polygons with less effects. In practice the performance of the N64 is far better than PS1's.

The N64 can do a lot more visual effects, had more RAM and it could do MPEG. PS1 was JPEG2.



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d21lewis on 23 January 2017
RolStoppable said:
This "law" was driven by ignorance for the longest time. The SNES was the most powerful console of its generation and it won.

The Neo Geo, which is usually brought up as a counterpoint, was not made to win; it's a console that is an odd outlier because virtually every other console ever made was intended to win over the market and beat the other consoles in the market. Nothing about the Neo Geo ever suggested that its manufacturer cared about market share. Just look at the hardware and software prices. The system was made to bring an authentic arcade experience to people's homes and everything about it was priced accordingly.

YOU AIN'T GOT THE ANSWERS, ROL.

 

Whether it was made to win or not, the Neo Geo came out in the fourth gen and it was more powerful and it wasn't the best selling console. Don't make me dig out the Neo Geo advertisements. I'll do it, dammit.



Pyro as Bill on 23 January 2017
RolStoppable said:
This "law" was driven by ignorance for the longest time. The SNES was the most powerful console of its generation and it won.

The Neo Geo, which is usually brought up as a counterpoint, was not made to win; it's a console that is an odd outlier because virtually every other console ever made was intended to win over the market and beat the other consoles in the market. Nothing about the Neo Geo ever suggested that its manufacturer cared about market share. Just look at the hardware and software prices. The system was made to bring an authentic arcade experience to people's homes and everything about it was priced accordingly.

Got it's arse kicked by Gameboy though (jk).

If mid-gen upgrades count, what about the Mega-CD? Plays exclusive CD-games and boosts MegaDrive games, Scorpio (might) play exclusive VR games, boost XB1 games.



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Azzanation on 23 January 2017

But 1080p, 720p and 900p are unplayable.....



Platina on 23 January 2017

PS4 and the Pro are more powerful than the Xbox One and it's winning so no, not really



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aikohualda on 23 January 2017
Jpcc86 said:
d21lewis said:

PS1 was 32-Bit.

I can't remember what the Nintendo 64 was.

Yet average PS1 games use more polygons than average N64 games and N64 texture resolutions are lower. Not to mention a PS1's cd-rom could hold 660m and the largest n64 cartridges could only hold 64mb. Gee, I wonder why the Nintendo 64 chose that path. 

 



 

numberwang on 23 January 2017

The best just never win...



Pemalite on 23 January 2017
Jpcc86 said:

Yet average PS1 games use more polygons than average N64 games and N64 texture resolutions are lower. Not to mention a PS1's cd-rom could hold 660m and the largest n64 cartridges could only hold 64mb. Gee, I wonder why the Nintendo 64 chose that path. 

 

The Nintendo 64 could have higher poly counts than the PS1.
Nintendo 64 texture quality could be vastly superior to the PS1 and actually have texture filtering.

Carts, despite having their draw backs also has multiple advantages.
Carts can transfer data on the fly much faster, much more responsively than Optical Disc storage. - Eliminating load times and allowing for assets to be streamed on the fly, saving RAM.
Carts are also more durable and longer lasting, many discs will eventually suffer from Disc Rot.

The fact is, regardless of how you dance around the issue and deny facts, the Nintendo 64 was not only technically superior, it was superior in the real world and the games literally prove it. You have no argument.

Name a PS1 game that looks better than Perfect Dark (And this isn't the best looking N64 game either, so I can move the goal post if you wish.):




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Nem on 23 January 2017

There really isn't very much of a contest anymore.

Xbox is only popular in the US. In europe it's a second rate system. Playstation is popular on all 3 major regions. It's technicly impossible for them to win anything but the US.
Even the PS3 ended up outselling the 360.

 

How powerful it is, is irrelevant, i think. It's more about the price.



Bman54 on 23 January 2017
Pemalite said:

Name a PS1 game that looks better than Perfect Dark (And this isn't the best looking N64 game either, so I can move the goal post if you wish.):

What was the best looking? I always thought Perfect Dark was considered the best