torok said:
zorg1000 said:
Wii U had Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, FIFA & Madden day 1 as well and they did absolutely nothing for Wii U. It doesn't matter how many games a system has if those games don't appeal to the audience that is interested in that device or if people would rather play those games elsewhere.
Thats why we are seeing a pretty solid amount of Japanese, indie & kid/family software releasing throughout the year for Switch, because these are the type of games which had success on 3DS/Wii U so their chances of success on Switch are significantly higher than mainstream western titles.
Mainstream western games really havent done well on Nintendo platforms in recent history, that doesnt mean Nintendo should go out of their way to shun them but at the same time they shouldnt go out of their way to appease them.
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Because the public that likes these games also wants to play Battlefield, GTA and others. It simply made more sense to get a PS4 or X1. Why would you get a console that plays only 10% of 3rd party games if that's what you like? Mainstream western games haven't sold on Nintendo platforms because they got only a fraction of them. It's not like the "Nintendo public" doesn't like it, Nintendo lost market share since the N64 and that's the exact reason why Wii U reached an all-time low.
Japanese games help with Japan. Just Japan. Indie games won't move a single unit. Kid/family has a decent appeal and it should be a focus, like the original Wii.
Anyway, the point isn't the 3rd party support. My point is that the games listed aren't huge sellers, except by Zelda, Splatoon, MK and a few other. Two are remasters. The highest-selling game there is Zelda, that can do something between 5-10M. Even though, the other consoles will go to Holidays with several titles that sell 15M easily and maybe a lower price point.
From a home console perspective, the Switch can't compete unless E3 is packed with announcements. At least Sony has room to cut the price. They are just keeping it high because the sales are good. They barely were up YoY because they refused to cut the price of the console. A 250 dollars price point is easy for Sony and probably MS. I would expect bundles for 200 dollars in Nov/Dec.
As a handheld, it has a free road ahead to replace 3DS, but it comes with a price point 50 dollars higher than the one that made 3DS flop initially. It's a whole 130 dollars to the pricing that made 3DS sell well.
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Sure, I can agree with that first paragraph, having COD & Ass Creed doesnt matter if you are missing out on other big titles with similar appeal like BF or GTA. And thats why Nintendo cant make this market its top priority because its highly unlikely they will get full support of these type of games.
Alot of Japanese franchises do well outside of Japan, for one Nintendo games are Japanese and are huge globally, other games like Monster Hunter, Yokai Watch, Bravely Default, etc have done well in non-Japanese territories. There has also been some indie games that were massive hits, Minecraft (before Microsoft bought Mahjong), Rocket League, Terraria, etc.
Individual games dont need to be massive system sellers, a system needs a steady flow of appealing games. Somebody is more likely to buy a system that has a couple dozen moderately appealing games per year vs one that has 2-3 major releases a year, for example 3DS vs Wii U. 3DS has a ton of good-great games while Wii U has a handful of good-great games. Its not quality vs quantity, its quality+quantity. I also think you are underselling games for being remasters, take a look at GTAV or TLOU.
Well you are wrong there, PS4/XBO did get official price cuts and additional holiday deals this year.
Yes 3DS price was an issue initally but it wouldnt have been nearly as bad if it didnt have poor marketing/branding (many thought it was a DS revision), had a poor gimmick (glassless 3D added little value) and had a terrible post launch lineup (OoT 3D was the only major game between launch and price cut).
As of now those issues dont seem to apply to Switch, the marketing/branding lets people know its a brand new device, the hybrid concept has far more functionality and appeal than glassless 3D & it is slated to have Zelda, Mario Kart, ARMS & Splatoon within the first 6 months along with a solid lineup of Japanese/indie/kid/family titles mixed in so while price may be an issue for Switch it likely wont be as bad as it was for 3DS.
