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Ck1x on 18 January 2017
TheWPCTraveler said:
Pemalite said:

And screen.

A 6.2" 720P screen is low-end and cheap.
                               

Here's the thing: cutting the screen resolution to save costs is something I'm perfectly fine with, provided that they make up for it in other aspects. I'm fine with it, especially if it's great under sunlight like the Nokia 808 PureView screen (which was a 360p OLED display).

There's also the fact that I'm jumping from the 240p screen of the 3DS XL.

I'm not even sure this is an issue, because I've watched lots of footage from people that went to the NY Switch event and they all raved about the screen quality. One YouTuber stated that he swore BoTW actually looked better on the Switch's screen, than in dock mode!



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NATO on 18 January 2017
Pemalite said:
TheWPCTraveler said:
Good lord, 4310 mAh. I expected something bigger than that on a 6.2" device.

Now I know where Nintendo skimped out, the battery. The worst place to skip out on.

And screen.

A 6.2" 720P screen is low-end and cheap.

Indeed, though they likely selected it because without external power, the console doesn't have the horsepower to power a full 1080..

meanwhile, my cellphone has a 4k screen and 2x the battery life of the switch, while playing games..



TheWPCTraveler on 18 January 2017
Ck1x said:
TheWPCTraveler said:
                               

Here's the thing: cutting the screen resolution to save costs is something I'm perfectly fine with, provided that they make up for it in other aspects. I'm fine with it, especially if it's great under sunlight like the Nokia 808 PureView screen (which was a 360p OLED display).

There's also the fact that I'm jumping from the 240p screen of the 3DS XL.

I'm not even sure this is an issue, because I've watched lots of footage from people that went to the NY Switch event and they all raved about the screen quality. One YouTuber stated that he swore BoTW actually looked better on the Switch's screen, than in dock mode!

1. Poor calibration for the TV sets

2. Poor lighting conditions in general

I'll wait for the Switch itself to decide whether or not the screen quality is good enough.



 
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Pemalite on 18 January 2017
TheWPCTraveler said:
Pemalite said:

And screen.

A 6.2" 720P screen is low-end and cheap.
                               

Here's the thing: cutting the screen resolution to save costs is something I'm perfectly fine with, provided that they make up for it in other aspects. I'm fine with it, especially if it's great under sunlight like the Nokia 808 PureView screen (which was a 360p OLED display).

There's also the fact that I'm jumping from the 240p screen of the 3DS XL.

I can't agree with you.

The screen is something you spend the majority of your time staring at. So make it a good one. (Hence why I have a 1440P display on my main system and phone.)

There is more to screen quality than just the resolution, which you hinted towards with the Nokia 808 (Which got criticised for it's display resolution, but praised in other aspects). The fact it is using OLED means it had several advantages over other LCD technologies, but it's also old now. Not a modern device.

Samsung for instance typically uses Pentile displays which actually need higher resolutions to look as sharp as other panels due to how the sub pixels are arranged.

We are also in 2017.
A 720P display when we have been spoiled by 1080P displays in even budget devices like the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 is simply unacceptable... And there are advantages to rendering a game at a lower resolution and upscaling it to a higher resolution display as well.

But it does come with a caveat. Higher resolution displays typically use more energy and they need a brighter backlight to brighten the display... Nintendo cutting corners here should have meant a lower price, longer battery life or a faster SoC. Sadly. None of that actually happened.



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bdbdbd on 18 January 2017
TheWPCTraveler said:

1. Poor calibration for the TV sets

2. Poor lighting conditions in general

I'll wait for the Switch itself to decide whether or not the screen quality is good enough.

The small screen has higher amount of pixels per inch (or centimeters, whatever). So, 720p on the Switch 6,2 inch screen would be slightly better than 2K on 32 inch TV, and considerably better than full HD on the same TV, or roughly equivalent to 4K on a 60inch TV.

Pemalite said:

I can't agree with you.

The screen is something you spend the majority of your time staring at. So make it a good one. (Hence why I have a 1440P display on my main system and phone.)

There is more to screen quality than just the resolution, which you hinted towards with the Nokia 808 (Which got criticised for it's display resolution, but praised in other aspects). The fact it is using OLED means it had several advantages over other LCD technologies, but it's also old now. Not a modern device.

Samsung for instance typically uses Pentile displays which actually need higher resolutions to look as sharp as other panels due to how the sub pixels are arranged.

We are also in 2017.
A 720P display when we have been spoiled by 1080P displays in even budget devices like the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 is simply unacceptable... And there are advantages to rendering a game at a lower resolution and upscaling it to a higher resolution display as well.

But it does come with a caveat. Higher resolution displays typically use more energy and they need a brighter backlight to brighten the display... Nintendo cutting corners here should have meant a lower price, longer battery life or a faster SoC. Sadly. None of that actually happened.

Who says all of that didn't happen? 720p native resolution on the portable mode is a good idea as you don't need to compromise on the resolution, while providing better battery life.



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Zekkyou on 18 January 2017

FunFan said:

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Zekkyou said:

I am just as bound by the rules, both in my posting and judgement of others, as everyone else. You forget i'm just one of an mod team :p We can't just ban people willy nilly.

Really? Because you said:

"So you felt the need to reply, but have to intention of elaborating? In that case i'm left to assume your argument is grounded in emotion rather than logical deconstructions of people's preferences.

*shrugs* Ah well. Each to their own i guess."

That was unnesesary and feels so close to a bait... Not that I mind. I like mods being sharp with their tongue. Thats why Tachi was the best.

Zekkyou said:

Even if i disagreed with you on every point you present (or vice versa), as long as what you're saying is presented reasonably, there's very little chance of you offending me. Even then, as long as you're not breaking a forum rule, it doesn't really matter if you offended me or not. I imagine i've offended plenty of people in the past. I can be a tad blunt sometimes

Do you really want to engage? Because I don't.

It's perfectly fine if you don't wish too, i was just expressing what i see as the logical extension of not wanting too. 



Pemalite on 18 January 2017
bdbdbd said:

Who says all of that didn't happen? 720p native resolution on the portable mode is a good idea as you don't need to compromise on the resolution, while providing better battery life.

I said it didn't. The Switch still doesn't get good battery life even with the SoC underclocked to 307.2mhz.

They cut corners.

But it also means they can make allot of improvements in the revision in a year or two's time like they typically do. (Bigger screen, bigger battery, more cats.)
That is what I am looking forward to at the moment.



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