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What are you ranting about?

The console price? 72 18.05%
 
the peripherals price? 61 15.29%
 
not being a truly home console? 23 5.76%
 
not being a truly handheld console? 3 0.75%
 
the battery life? 14 3.51%
 
the graphic department? 24 6.02%
 
nintendo not following the 2 others path? 6 1.50%
 
not enough games? 73 18.30%
 
all of the above? 96 24.06%
 
just because? 27 6.77%
 
Total:399

The console price?
Doesn't bother me at all.  I saw the $250 rumors and while I thought and said that it would be a great price point, I also thought that they could still get away with $300.  Any higher and I would have started to bitch.

the peripherals price?
Those do bother me.  Nintendo is essentially begging all of us to buy 3rd party peripherals because I cannot see how they can justify charging 90 bucks for a dock that's essentially a HDMI port and charger.  As for the joycons, I guess I can rationalize that to myself because of the tech in them -- which I hear is expensive.  I just hope they find a way to justify the price for it by implementing it well in games in a non-intrusive manner.

not being a truly home console?
I stopped bitching about that a couple of days after last year's reveal.

not being a truly handheld console?
If I'm an avid handheld guy, I'm excited since it's essentially an extremely souped up Vita

the battery life?
It's about the same as the 3DS's.  Also, for people complaining about it, just buy a power bank and slap it to the back of the Switch using some velcro strips or something.

the graphic department?
I've never been a graphics whore.  You can give me stylized graphics as long as the game has good frame rates and draw distance.

nintendo not following the 2 others path?
This is the first time that I'm actually happy with Nintendo's special snowflake choice.  Portability is actually a good selling point to me in hindsight because I realized that I wasn't a typical couch gamer that likes playing games in front of a big screen and would probably be spending most of my time using it in handheld mode -- which makes me hope that a 3rd party comes up with some joycons with angled stick/button placements.

not enough games?
I can already think of 6-8 games I want to get within the console's first year which is already more games than what I would sincerely want to play on either the PS4 or XBone.

As for other things like paid-online, I'll wait for what Nintendo has to say on a later date before I delcare that the sky is falling.  Right now, the only things other than peripherial pricing that I can truly complain about are the Switch's seemingly poorly planned presentation and the pricing for 1-2-Switch.  The presentation because there's a lot of aspects to the Switch that Nintendo could have elaborated on and the absence of significant trailers that were uploaded to youtube afterwards like for Mario Kart 8: Deluxe.  As for  1-2-Switch, I'm annoyed because that's supposed to be the game that justifies HDRumble and a high price is just going to get a lot of people to go "screw that" and avoid it which is going to make Nintendo lose a lot of the word-of-mouth potential for that game.



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VitaminZ said:
Top 3 problems for me:

1. Pricing: why would a consumer choose it over a PS4?

2. JoyCons: they doubled down on an old gimmick and drove up the cost of the hardware. And then $70 for a normal controller? It doesn't even come with a normal controller?

3. Games: there will be droughts

1:  Is this a joke?  Nintendo games, portable mode, 720p Wiiu on steroids level of graphics on a handheld with a 6" screen... Why do you guys still think raw power is everything? is such a simpleton way to think.

2: You know nothing about the production price of the joycons and they can actually be a major sell point , they have gyroscope like wiu, they have pointers like the wii (without a cable in the middle), they have what is seems to be the best rumbling tech for a console ever, they can calculate velocity, distance and recognize objects and shapes and they can work like independent gamepads to play multiplayer everywhere, they are pretty cool, even Digital Foundry said they actually feel right in your hands despite size and the feedback from the game Arms is great, i have read the Joycons make it very fun.

3:This console will get every Nintendo game thanks to the unifies library, every one of them, no more split between handheld and homecosnole, that means it will not have big droughts like the Wiiu at all.



I think Nintendo is being greedy with everything related to the Switch.

The console is expensive, the peripherals are outrageously expensive, the included memory is small (32GB), they're now charging for online... It's like they got all the right ingredients to offer something interesting, went to their marketing department and asked: "People think the system is a great idea! How do we screw this up?".

Sure, the hardcore Nintendo fans will buy the system no questions asked. But they're certainly not doing a good job catering to the common denominator with prices/nickel and diming like this.

An other thing that's concerning is how they seem to limit inventory on purpose to "create" demand. As if they've got the trick from Disney's book.



Pemalite said:
justinian said:

Storage. 32GB is crap. Personally I find it annoying when people say SD cards are cheap. What nonsense.

32GB of Storage is fine. It's the quality of the storage that matters.

The Switch uses NAND storage that is likely significantly faster than your typical MicroSD card, the handhelds internal memory has to do more than stream data for a game remember, it has an OS and other background tasks pegging the same drive.

Plus... The console uses Carts and flash, not Optical and mechanical disks, thus there is less of a need to install your games from slower (optical) to faster (mechanical) media when the carts can have read speeds competitive with the internal NAND.
The crux is when you start downloading games digitally...
The Xbox One and Playstation 4 spend a significant amount of install size on high quality 7.1 lossless audio though, that is likely not going to be much of an issue on the Switch.

This is actually one aspect I don't have a problem with in the Switch though.
Would more be better? Shit yes. But they could have done allot worse as well, 32Gb is a fairly decent sweet spot all things considered.

Since I dont get much Digital games, almost only physical copys, this is a good thing in Nintendo. On Xbone and PS4 you have to download shitloads of updates and bug fixes. THat is uncommon in Ninty games. Havent heard of a Ninty game requiring a huge amount of update download in order to work properly. But 32 GB in PS4 or XBONE por example, would be useless, since one Game fix's update would take sometimes more than 32 GB sometimes. Yes im looking at you, Assasins Creed Unity...



                          

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Hynad said:

I think Nintendo is being greedy with everything related to the Switch.

The console is expensive, the peripherals are outrageously expensive, the included memory is small (32GB), they're now charging for online... It's like they got all the right ingredients to offer something interesting, went to their marketing department and asked: "People think the system is a great idea! How do we screw this up?".

Sure, the hardcore Nintendo fans will buy the system no questions asked. But they're certainly not doing a good job catering to the common denominator with prices/nickel and diming like this.

Seems like they are taking the marketing advices from apple Xp...

This actually made me laugh =D



                          

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Knitemare said:

Since I dont get much Digital games, almost only physical copys, this is a good thing in Nintendo. On Xbone and PS4 you have to download shitloads of updates and bug fixes. THat is uncommon in Ninty games. Havent heard of a Ninty game requiring a huge amount of update download in order to work properly. But 32 GB in PS4 or XBONE por example, would be useless, since one Game fix's update would take sometimes more than 32 GB sometimes. Yes im looking at you, Assasins Creed Unity...

You will likely still have to do updates and such.
But the way that the Xbox One and Playstation 4 typically handle updates is extremely wasteful. (Mostly thanks to Developers too.)

Doom for instance, the update was as large as the game install itself, which is bullshit. lol
It takes me a couple of days to download 30GB+ of data.

Blizzard tends to be a little better and only update things that need updating, thus their updates are usually under a couple gigabytes, even with new content like maps thrown in.




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Pemalite said:
Knitemare said:

Since I dont get much Digital games, almost only physical copys, this is a good thing in Nintendo. On Xbone and PS4 you have to download shitloads of updates and bug fixes. THat is uncommon in Ninty games. Havent heard of a Ninty game requiring a huge amount of update download in order to work properly. But 32 GB in PS4 or XBONE por example, would be useless, since one Game fix's update would take sometimes more than 32 GB sometimes. Yes im looking at you, Assasins Creed Unity...

You will likely still have to do updates and such.
But the way that the Xbox One and Playstation 4 typically handle updates is extremely wasteful. (Mostly thanks to Developers too.)

Doom for instance, the update was as large as the game install itself, which is bullshit. lol
It takes me a couple of days to download 30GB+ of data.

Blizzard tends to be a little better and only update things that need updating, thus their updates are usually under a couple gigabytes, even with new content like maps thrown in.

Something that's somewhat of a missed oportunity for the Switch is how game updates won't be installed on a dedicated part of the memory in the game carts. They have to be installed in the console's memory itself. I'm sure that's due to some security issues they fear could arise, but still, that would have been neat.



1. Price
2. Paid Online (so still price)

My main issue with the system



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Mainly just its price.
Needs to be 199$ and then Im in.



The price, paid online and the accessory prices.



 

              

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