What? Arms looks pretty great, a lot of previews have been positive. What on earth are you talking about?

You do realize Nintendo also holds Directs and E3 conferences, right? If they announce everything now some games might get overshadowed. They didn't show what Retro is working on for example, but they haven't released a game since early 2014 (and already started developing a new game a few months before it released), so that new game will be entering the final phase of development. I expect it will get announced at E3 this year and release somewhere in 2018. I also very much doubt that Next Level Games only worked on Metroid: Federation Force for the last 3 years... If so, what a HUGE FAIL lol. 

What? Arms looks pretty great, a lot of previews have been positive. What on earth are you talking about?

You do realize Nintendo also holds Directs and E3 conferences, right? If they announce everything now some games might get overshadowed. They didn't show what Retro is working on for example, but they haven't released a game since early 2014 (and already started developing a new game a few months before it released), so that new game will be entering the final phase of development. I expect it will get announced at E3 this year and release somewhere in 2018. I also very much doubt that Next Level Games only worked on Metroid: Federation Force for the last 3 years... If so, what a HUGE FAIL lol. 

ARMS looks like a glorified version of the Wii Sports boxing minigame IMO, but I'm trying to be less negative so I won't dwell on it.
And yes, I realize Nintendo likes to hold stuff back, but in this instance they really shouldn't, because its not a good look for their first year lineup to resemble the kind of support Wii U got.

ARMS looks like a glorified version of the Wii Sports boxing minigame IMO, but I'm trying to be less negative so I won't dwell on it.
And yes, I realize Nintendo likes to hold stuff back, but in this instance they really shouldn't, because its not a good look for their first year lineup to resemble the kind of support Wii U got.

Let's try and pull back on the "holier than thou" attitude a bit.  If you don't want to talk about resolution and console power and whatnot then a Digital Foundry thread just isn't for you.  I'm sure there are many other threads with a more "holistic" approach.   

I thought so when I saw the reveal. A boxing minigame? What the hell, Nintendo? Then I saw some gameplays and I felt there's much more to it. It was a similar reaction with Splatoon in my case. I'm telling you this because I don't know if you saw some gameplays, if not I think they're worth checking. If you saw them and felt that way, well, there's nothing I can do!

You should look up some of the livestream footage, the battles got intense.

The basic concept of the combat system is this:

Blocking beats punches, grabs beat blocking and punches beat grabs. You also need to aim your punches carefully and you can also curve them. You need to think ahead if you want to destroy your opponent. There's also strategy involved in which fighter you pick and which glove you select for each arm (3 options available for now, might be more in the full release). Some of the stages are also interactable. The motion controls are also very accurate from what is being reported. And the game also works with a traditonal controller if motion controls are not your cup of tea. 

That's already a lot more debt than Wii Sports Boxing if you ask me. Could you even move in those boxing matches?

I thought so when I saw the reveal. A boxing minigame? What the hell, Nintendo? Then I saw some gameplays and I felt there's much more to it. It was a similar reaction with Splatoon in my case. I'm telling you this because I don't know if you saw some gameplays, if not I think they're worth checking. If you saw them and felt that way, well, there's nothing I can do!

You should look up some of the livestream footage, the battles got intense.

The basic concept of the combat system is this:

Blocking beats punches, grabs beat blocking and punches beat grabs. You also need to aim your punches carefully and you can also curve them. You need to think ahead if you want to destroy your opponent. There's also strategy involved in which fighter you pick and which glove you select for each arm (3 options available for now, might be more in the full release). Some of the stages are also interactable. The motion controls are also very accurate from what is being reported. And the game also works with a traditonal controller if motion controls are not your cup of tea. 

That's already a lot more debt than Wii Sports Boxing if you ask me. Could you even move in those boxing matches?

Everythings open to opinion, this thread is open for dicussion as far as I can tell, I have been replying to someone directly quoting me, aslo try not to get offended by other views   

It's not your views, it's how you choose to present them.  Someone of your advanced age should know that it's not what you say but how you say it.  If you can express your views without soundling like the person you are talking to is beneath you then feel free to stick around.