I'd have to give more detail about why I'm not keeping with Nintendo. It's not just because of the online.

Paying online would be fine with me, but the Switch is just outdated on the graphic parts,  like really outdated, ,more than 1 gen late now but at the same time it's crazy expensive because of the joycons and everything, but I think those will be useless.

Most games are aimed at japanese people, and those games are just not my cup of tea, also first party  games looked really weak to me. Mario looks weird, don't care about Mario kart 8 deluxe, ARMS looks like a fun game that you 'll play a day or two but not someting worth 50 bucks. 

And the prices of accessories, oh my god those prices, 70/75bucks for a controller? have they lost their mind? 

And if they still us the same price strategy, you know all those will stay up. It doesn't make any sense to me, the Switch is just a bad idea that keeps on getting worse and worse. 

I was a PC gamer for 12+ years after seeing how much games i missed on consoles i switched to PS4 PSN is not that much tbh if you are paying yearly.

PS4 is gonna be for 3d Party multiplats/exclusives when i decide to buy switch it's gonna be only for exclusives i don't even like online that much.

Best of both worlds imo.

Yeah, considering how popular these games are and how many threads we had about Splatoon's multiplayer, I suspect it affects quie a few people, if not millions.

Totally agree with you. I, sometimes, pay for Xbox Live, because they give away some great games. But that's about it. Nintendo will give old NES and SNES games for you to play just a month (if you could keep it, I would change my matter on this subject). That's not enough.

About quitting console gaming, I think XOne will end up being my last console. Bought it because it had more and better exclusives at launch then PS4. Now, there's no exclusives at all. Beside that, I don't have the time anymore for playing. Switch could have been a solution, but for that price and that power (I don't care much about power, but I do care about paying what is fair, for what Nintendo showed, my max price for Switch would be $249), there's no way for me.

About remaster: I like remasters, because it's a chance to play the whole game, with all DLC in a new platform (I have a lot of old consoles, but I usually let just one console plugged in the TV, XOne). Of course, I'm just interested in games that I haven't played before. The problem is: there's clearly a lack of new games. That's why remasters bother people so much.

For what I've seen so far, yes, Splatoon and Mario Kart would be pretty much useless for me. If it get enough good turn-based JRPG exclusives (something that the PS4 lacks) then that might help raise my interest on the Switch, but I won't be suscribing to that paid online programm nor getting games that require online to play, that's for sure.

Probably. That's exactly what happened when Sony annnounced the PS4 paywall. Legions of fans who had blasted Xbox for paid online suddenly fell silent.

As for me, I'm pretty disappointed in Nintendo. Starting with WiiU/3DS it began to embrace all the negative trends in the industry: DLC, season passes, microtransactions, etc. Now we can add online paywalls. Nintendo might make the best games in the business but they've become another cynical shark in terms of business tactics.

I don´t play online at all. I don´t buy online games.
I won´t quit consoles until playstation exclusives are on PC.
I do wish everything was on PC though.

Surely there are some threads from the last few years asking this question. I'd be interested to see people's opinions then vs now.

Nah. I really liked the online from Wii U but I was a longtime 360 owner so the fees never bothered me. I won't be participating in Switch and their online setup. The game rentals feel like a ripoff after getting the love from GWG.

I m not quitting console gaming since there are a lot of good single player games coming out. I am just buying consoles mid cycle instead of during launch and buying most games on PC instead.