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I was really pleased to see a real sequel to the first game and was captivated by the environments. I barely looked at the character designs. It didn't bother me but they weren't true to the original.

I vastly prefered the world creation in the first game and I prefered its plot and character focus.



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I think it looks nice, more colorful than the last game in terms of vibrancy 



spemanig said:
curl-6 said:

I've gone out of my way to try different types and avoid stuff I dislike, and in most cases I still don't like what I get.

I simply do not like anime in general, I don't know why you have such an issue with that.

If your summation after "trying different types" is that 90% of anime is high school melodrama with mascot characters, then you clearly have not actually tried different types. That's my issue. I already explained in great detail how wide the umbrella of anime spreads. To say that you don't something that broad makes little sense. Again, just like not liking music/movies/websites/colors/stories/words.

I have tried different types, but I'm also aware of the countless ones I see around but deliberately avoid.

It doesn't feel like you're giving me much choice here, it seems to be either (A) like anime or (B) you're narrow minded. Is there an option C?



curl-6 said:
Mnementh said:

Well, then you don't have an open mind. Saying that is like saying: I have sampled a Hollywood movie and I didn't like it.

Anime is very different. Take for example: Mushishi, Serial Experiments Lain, Parasyte Maxim, Nichijou and Akatsuki no Yona. These series fit together well as Stranger Things, How I met your Mother, Primer, 300 and finding nemo would fit into the same category - not at all. So if you put Anime together so as if it would be all the same you don't treat anime fairly.

I've tried many anime shows, many anime movies, and many games like an anime style. In the majority of cases I find the style and associated conventions annoying.

Having an "open mind" doesn't mean you're not allowed to dislike things.

Sure, can you have opinions. The problem is, that lumping different stuff together is no sign of an open mind. And Anime well covers pretty much everything that entertainment has to offer. It would be the same if you said you like all Anime. I don't like all Anime the same way I don't like all Hollywood movies. It's impossible to put all in one basket.



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Mnementh said:
curl-6 said:

I've tried many anime shows, many anime movies, and many games like an anime style. In the majority of cases I find the style and associated conventions annoying.

Having an "open mind" doesn't mean you're not allowed to dislike things.

Sure, can you have opinions. The problem is, that lumping different stuff together is no sign of an open mind. And Anime well covers pretty much everything that entertainment has to offer. It would be the same if you said you like all Anime. I don't like all Anime the same way I don't like all Hollywood movies. It's impossible to put all in one basket.

Never did I say I disliked all anime. You guys just can't seem to cope with the fact that somebody doesn't like what you like.



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Hynad said:
RolStoppable said:

I didn't get around to write one.

Which reminds me of last year's failed mega project to finish the thing in its entirety with an estimated time of 250 hours. I broke down after 210 hours because I couldn't see the game anymore. Got a 100% exploration rate, finished all missions except one basic one that involved killing a certain tyrant, killed all tyrants except ~10, had gotten 731/749 trophies. The missing tyrants and trophies required yet another round of heavy grinding after I had done so many before; I think I could have fulfilled the original estimate of 250 hours, but I couldn't do it anymore. Also, the plan to max out all skills turned into a huge bust, because the avatar gets way too few skill points and grinding them is a nightmare.

Game world is great, freedom is good, content until the credits is motivating. But once you move to the postgame content you soon get slammed with ridiculous grinding. There's no smooth progression from tackling one thing and then moving on to the next; you have a huge hill to climb before you can do some actually new things again. This game was big enough to not fall back on cheap tactics to lengthen the playtime, but it fell into that trap big time.

I'd still rate it 8.4/10, but it's clearly not as good as the first game.

I'd rather have Xenoblade 2 with a smaller game world that has more interesting things to do. A growth in quality instead of pursuing quantity, so to say.

I think that by naming the game Xenoblade 2, they're sending the message that the game will be more like the first game than like XCX.

I didn't finish XCX. The progression is so slow in this game, and there's so many fetch-quests that I prefer doing it in short bursts. I have to say I don't really enjoy the formula they went for this time around, and prefer the first game in most aspects. The world in XCX is nice to explore for sure, but the payout isn't good enough most of the time. That, and Skell battles really disappointed me by how basic and repetitive they are. :(

Finally someone else who didn't like X. I never even got outside the first area, that's how much the game bored me. 



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Still looks like generic anime a low budget studio done over the weekend. Far worse than XCX.



Alkibiádēs said:
Hynad said:

I think that by naming the game Xenoblade 2, they're sending the message that the game will be more like the first game than like XCX.

I didn't finish XCX. The progression is so slow in this game, and there's so many fetch-quests that I prefer doing it in short bursts. I have to say I don't really enjoy the formula they went for this time around, and prefer the first game in most aspects. The world in XCX is nice to explore for sure, but the payout isn't good enough most of the time. That, and Skell battles really disappointed me by how basic and repetitive they are. :(

Finally someone else who didn't like X. I never even got outside the first area, that's how much the game bored me. 

That's how much you can judge it though, you have seen nothing.



curl-6 said:
spemanig said:

I mean, anime is incredibly broad, so it kind of is not having an open mind. Saying you don't like anime is like saying you don't like live-action. The only "associated conventions" and "style" are being animated and being produced in Japan.

I don't like anime in general; there are exceptions (Princess Mononoke comes to mind) but the tropes common to around 90% of anime irritate the crap out of me. That's not being closed minded, that's simply not being a fan of overly melodramatic high school aged main characters, cutesy mascot co-stars, technicoloured hair, and other such widespread cliches.

See, that's exactly the point I tried to make:

Mushishi: no high school aged characters (well there are childs in some episodes, but the main character is an adult men), no mascots, no too colorful hair

https://www.google.de/search?q=mushishi&hl=de&gbv=1&prmd=ivns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjv3K7f3cjRAhVDCZoKHUD6DaAQ_AUIBQ

 

Serial experiments Lain has an high-school-aged heroine, but besides that your analysis is off

https://www.google.de/search?q=serial+experiments+lain&btnG=Suche&hl=de&gbv=1&tbm=isch

 

Parasyte Maxim has an high-school-aged hero, but involved in all the action are people of different ages. No mascots, no colorful hair and melodrama if you think the mincemeat-murders are melodramatic - well that's your point of view.

https://www.google.de/search?q=parasyte+maxim&btnG=Suche&hl=de&gbv=1&tbm=isch

 

Nuichijou has no high-school-aged heroes - they are younger. Cutesy mascots is true for that one. Also colorful hair. Yeah, we found the sort of Anime you watched so far. Anime targeted at children.

https://www.google.de/search?q=nichijou&btnG=Suche&hl=de&gbv=1&tbm=isch

 

Akatsuki no Yona matches also most of your cliches. So two out of five. Still in my opinion very different to Nichijou.

https://www.google.de/search?q=Akatsuki+no+Yona&btnG=Suche&hl=de&gbv=1&tbm=isch

 

Also a word to the technicolor hair. I met some japanese students here in germany. They tend to color their hair and in some cases in unnatural colors like blue or green. I guess it's somewhat boring if everyone has black hair (as japanese have no blondes, brown-haired or red-haired people naturally, all habve black hair - or white in old age).



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Mnementh said:
curl-6 said:

I don't like anime in general; there are exceptions (Princess Mononoke comes to mind) but the tropes common to around 90% of anime irritate the crap out of me. That's not being closed minded, that's simply not being a fan of overly melodramatic high school aged main characters, cutesy mascot co-stars, technicoloured hair, and other such widespread cliches.

See, that's exactly the point I tried to make:

Mushishi: no high school aged characters (well there are childs in some episodes, but the main character is an adult men), no mascots, no too colorful hair

https://www.google.de/search?q=mushishi&hl=de&gbv=1&prmd=ivns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjv3K7f3cjRAhVDCZoKHUD6DaAQ_AUIBQ

 

Serial experiments Lain has an high-school-aged heroine, but besides that your analysis is off

https://www.google.de/search?q=serial+experiments+lain&btnG=Suche&hl=de&gbv=1&tbm=isch

 

Parasyte Maxim has an high-school-aged hero, but involved in all the action are people of different ages. No mascots, no colorful hair and melodrama if you think the mincemeat-murders are melodramatic - well that's your point of view.

https://www.google.de/search?q=parasyte+maxim&btnG=Suche&hl=de&gbv=1&tbm=isch

 

Nuichijou has no high-school-aged heroes - they are younger. Cutesy mascots is true for that one. Also colorful hair. Yeah, we found the sort of Anime you watched so far. Anime targeted at children.

https://www.google.de/search?q=nichijou&btnG=Suche&hl=de&gbv=1&tbm=isch

 

Akatsuki no Yona matches also most of your cliches. So two out of five. Still in my opinion very different to Nichijou.

https://www.google.de/search?q=Akatsuki+no+Yona&btnG=Suche&hl=de&gbv=1&tbm=isch

 

Also a word to the technicolor hair. I met some japanese students here in germany. They tend to color their hair and in some cases in unnatural colors like blue or green. I guess it's somewhat boring if everyone has black hair (as japanese have no blondes, brown-haired or red-haired people naturally, all habve black hair - or white in old age).

See there's no way this can go anywhere. If I say I don't like it, you guys say I'm closed minded. Nothing to do but agree to disagree.