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Seeing certain reactions in my Nintendo report thread, I agree with moderation of those who refuse to accept facts.



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OTBWY said:
Seeing certain reactions in my Nintendo report thread, I agree with moderation of those who refuse to accept facts.

I hope this is directed at the people insisting it was sold through and not those who were rightly saying it was shipped. xD



Barkley said:
OTBWY said:
Seeing certain reactions in my Nintendo report thread, I agree with moderation of those who refuse to accept facts.

I hope this is directed at the people insisting it was sold through and not those who were rightly saying it was shipped. xD

Nobody knows 100% yet, all we know is sold = sold. And that is a fact.

Saying that it only 12,3m sold through (in consumers' hands) is a downplay tactic and it always comes from the same people. It's annoying.



OTBWY said:
Barkley said:

I hope this is directed at the people insisting it was sold through and not those who were rightly saying it was shipped. xD

Nobody knows 100% yet, all we know is sold = sold. And that is a fact.

Saying that it only 12,3m sold through (in consumers' hands) is a downplay tactic and it always comes from the same people. It's annoying.

There is a difference between shipped and sold through. There could be product sitting in a warehouse or store and not in the actual hands of consumers.



Miguel_Zorro said:
Aeolus451 said:

There is a difference between shipped and sold through. There could be product sitting in a warehouse or store and not in the actual hands of consumers.

This is an interesting test case.

If I dig into this and discover that one of the two people above is arguing against facts, should that person be moderated?

But I'm not seeing a "refusal to acknowledge facts" here from either of them...

I guess you could say OTBWY is refusing to acknowledge the numbers are shipped, but that would seem harsh considering the circumstances, and he's not being a dick about it.



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Barkley said:
Miguel_Zorro said:

This is an interesting test case.

If I dig into this and discover that one of the two people above is arguing against facts, should that person be moderated?

But I'm not seeing a "refusal to acknowledge facts" here from either of them...

I guess you could say OTBWY is refusing to acknowledge the numbers are shipped, but that would seem harsh considering the circumstances, and he's not being a dick about it.

Saying that less than 2m of shipped 5m is sold through is rejecting reality.



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Miguel_Zorro said:
Aeolus451 said:

There is a difference between shipped and sold through. There could be product sitting in a warehouse or store and not in the actual hands of consumers.

This is an interesting test case.

If I dig into this and discover that one of the two people above is arguing against facts, should that person be moderated?

If you wanted to apply that rule universally, yep. 😹



This time I voted in favor of modding willful ignorance. The most obnoxious kind. Still hoping a wide berth is given on such matters. As well, I'm curious to know if the thumbs up/thumbs down voting present in the news and articles has ever been a topic of conversation? At it's worst, all it does is afford fanboys the opportunity to downvote innocuous comments with anonymity, simply because it's about a console brand they don't like. Or maybe they downvote another member because they have a personal issue. It's not a particularly large problem, but I feel it has drawbacks, and maybe doesn't help foster the most civil environment on that part of the site. Then again, I do see the appeal of lazily giving the thumbs down to dumbasses and troublemakers.

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spurgeonryan said:
COKTOE said:
This time I voted in favor of modding willful ignorance. The most obnoxious kind. Still hoping a wide birth is given on such matters. As well, I'm curious to know if the thumbs up/thumbs down voting present in the news and articles has ever been a topic of conversation? At it's worst, all it does is afford fanboys the opportunity to downvote innocuous comments with anonymity, simply because it's about a console brand they don't like. Or maybe they downvote another member because they have a personal issue. It's not a particularly large problem, but I feel it has drawbacks, and maybe doesn't help foster the most civil environment on that part of the site. Then again, I do see the appeal of lazily giving the thumbs down to dumbasses and troublemakers.

I use my 4 upvote power to upvote anything  I see that is low that I feel should not be.

Well, sure, I do that too. Sometimes I even act as a VGC upvote fairy, giving out upvotes to comments I don't even particularly like.



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CGI-Quality said:
COKTOE said:
This time I voted in favor of modding willful ignorance. The most obnoxious kind. Still hoping a wide birth is given on such matters. As well, I'm curious to know if the thumbs up/thumbs down voting present in the news and articles has ever been a topic of conversation? At it's worst, all it does is afford fanboys the opportunity to downvote innocuous comments with anonymity, simply because it's about a console brand they don't like. Or maybe they downvote another member because they have a personal issue. It's not a particularly large problem, but I feel it has drawbacks, and maybe doesn't help foster the most civil environment on that part of the site. Then again, I do see the appeal of lazily giving the thumbs down to dumbasses and troublemakers.

The voting process has been discussed before. I believe our conclusion was.....grow thicker skin!

:) Fair enough. Was wanting to bring it up before, and was reminded tonight when I clicked on an article a few times and saw things fluctuating pretty rapidly.



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