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Does this mean that I can call people trolls and obnoxious pricks now without being moderated? If yes, I completely support Talon's behavior.



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We shouldn't be avoiding a moderation on TalonMan because he's site a site admin.

We should be avoiding a moderation on TalonMan because common sense should be at the middle of any decision a mod team makes. I've been a long time advocate of trimming down our rule set and moving to a more common sense model of moderation, and I've been saying for a long time that our current rule set can be condensed down to a simple phrase - "Don't be a dick".

If you're being a dick, don't be surprised to see people call you out on being a dick. Also don't be surprised to see the mod team turn a blind eye to someone calling you a dick from time to time.



                            

A negative and baiting post shouldn't be reacted to, but rather, reported to the mod team and move along



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Carl2291 said:
We shouldn't be avoiding a moderation on TalonMan because he's site a site admin.

We should be avoiding a moderation on TalonMan because common sense should be at the middle of any decision a mod team makes. I've been a long time advocate of trimming down our rule set and moving to a more common sense model of moderation, and I've been saying for a long time that our current rule set can be condensed down to a simple phrase - "Don't be a dick".

If you're being a dick, don't be surprised to see people call you out on being a dick. Also don't be surprised to see the mod team turn a blind eye to someone calling you a dick from time to time.

I just want to voice my support for this idea. Some people get away with some ridiculous stuff just because it's not explicitly forbidden in the rules. I still think the discussion culture here is excellent compared to many other sites, but there's always room for improvement.



Carl2291 said:
We shouldn't be avoiding a moderation on TalonMan because he's site a site admin.

We should be avoiding a moderation on TalonMan because common sense should be at the middle of any decision a mod team makes. I've been a long time advocate of trimming down our rule set and moving to a more common sense model of moderation, and I've been saying for a long time that our current rule set can be condensed down to a simple phrase - "Don't be a dick".

If you're being a dick, don't be surprised to see people call you out on being a dick. Also don't be surprised to see the mod team turn a blind eye to someone calling you a dick from time to time.

I just wish that logic applied to everyone.  I'm pretty sure if I told someone they're being a dick no matter who id get moderated. 



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Kerotan said:
Carl2291 said:
We shouldn't be avoiding a moderation on TalonMan because he's site a site admin.

We should be avoiding a moderation on TalonMan because common sense should be at the middle of any decision a mod team makes. I've been a long time advocate of trimming down our rule set and moving to a more common sense model of moderation, and I've been saying for a long time that our current rule set can be condensed down to a simple phrase - "Don't be a dick".

If you're being a dick, don't be surprised to see people call you out on being a dick. Also don't be surprised to see the mod team turn a blind eye to someone calling you a dick from time to time.

I just wish that logic applied to everyone.  I'm pretty sure if I told someone they're being a dick no matter who id get moderated. 

I think Talon was given admin powers directly from ioi though, and not the mod team, so they can't really do anything about it.



TalonMan said:
VGPolyglot said:

I think Talon was given admin powers directly from ioi though, and not the mod team, so they can't really do anything about it.

Brett gave me access to the server - that's all. I gave myself the other tags (site admin, gamedb, mod, etc.) so I could see the functionality and work with it - no more, no less. Either that, or I run through all the code and fix every "if moderator" to be "if moderator or siteadmin" - but I think my time could be spent better on other things.

I'm not forcing my will on anyone around here - if the mod team feels I've stepped over some line, so be it. This whole thing reminds of grammar school with my daughter - the one girl continues to needle my daughter until she finally reacts. Once she does react, the instigator runs off to get a teacher so she can pretend as though she's the victim...  It's absurd and childish.

I want you here I think actually that the Project Managers idea is a good thing, because it means you won't have to deal with things like this directly, we can deal with it ourselves instead.



TalonMan said:

This whole thing reminds of grammar school with my daughter - the one girl continues to needle my daughter until she finally reacts. Once she does react, the instigator runs off to get a teacher so she can pretend as though she's the victim...  It's absurd and childish.

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VGPolyglot said:
Kerotan said:

I just wish that logic applied to everyone.  I'm pretty sure if I told someone they're being a dick no matter who id get moderated. 

I think Talon was given admin powers directly from ioi though, and not the mod team, so they can't really do anything about it.

Ok so he's above the law. Sanctioned by Lord iOS himself so im ok with this.  Talon you can hsve my babies .



Kerotan said:
VGPolyglot said:

I think Talon was given admin powers directly from ioi though, and not the mod team, so they can't really do anything about it.

Ok so he's above the law. Sanctioned by Lord iOS himself so im ok with this.  Talon you can hsve my babies .

Your sarcasm doesn't amuse me.