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GhaudePhaede010 said:

I hate the controls of Splatoon. The controls (or lack of options) is the reason to this day I do not own the game. If they offered pointer controls, I would have purchased it immediately.

Ahh alright, thanks for the reminder. Now that you mention it, there were some voices like yours. Too bad, it's worth it. Motion controls are much faster and more precise once you got the hang of them.



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GoOnKid said:

1) That generalisation doesn't work. Metroid Prime for example was an outsourced game and it was a huge experiment since it switched the perspective. Luigi's Mansion 2 for example is a game that mostly sticks to the same formula as it's predecessor, so no experminets here. There are examples on both sides.

2) Okay, Mario is a cash cow. Undeniable.

You do understand that it's been 15 years since Metroid Prime was released? Lots have changed since then. This is the 3DS/Wii U era Nintendo in question. I haven't played Luigi's Mansion 2, but there was a decade in between the launches of the two games. Both of the games were some sort of tech demos for their platforms (dual analog/3D).

GoOnKid said:
GhaudePhaede010 said:

I hate the controls of Splatoon. The controls (or lack of options) is the reason to this day I do not own the game. If they offered pointer controls, I would have purchased it immediately.

Ahh alright, thanks for the reminder. Now that you mention it, there were some voices like yours. Too bad, it's worth it. Motion controls are much faster and more precise once you got the hang of them.

No it isn't. The motion controls are far from being more precise and faster, pointer is the best method there is. I've played a fair share on both methods (not Splatoon with pointer, of course). The fastest motion control setting is bearable, but you should be able to set the sensitivity to something like 10 times the current highest setting, so you could control the game with slight wrist movement - like you could with the Wii Remote.

I have to agree GhaudePhaede, if you don't already prefer dual analog or care about the motion control, it's not really worth it. The online play isn't done properly and you're limited just to two stages at a time (you cant even vote for).



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bdbdbd said:
GoOnKid said:

Ahh alright, thanks for the reminder. Now that you mention it, there were some voices like yours. Too bad, it's worth it. Motion controls are much faster and more precise once you got the hang of them.

No it isn't. The motion controls are far from being more precise and faster, pointer is the best method there is. I've played a fair share on both methods (not Splatoon with pointer, of course). The fastest motion control setting is bearable, but you should be able to set the sensitivity to something like 10 times the current highest setting, so you could control the game with slight wrist movement - like you could with the Wii Remote.

I have to agree GhaudePhaede, if you don't already prefer dual analog or care about the motion control, it's not really worth it. The online play isn't done properly and you're limited just to two stages at a time (you cant even vote for).

 

Highly disagree, Splatoon's amazing gameplay, the most important thing, makes it well worth using a control scheme you already know how to use and actively use in 90% of games you play. Demanding/expecting games use the system's non-primary control scheme is silly in it of itself, but Wiimote controls psychically wouldn't even work in this game, not well anyway. Not enough inputs even without counting the second screen functionality, and how would turning work besides being awkwardly slow, a complete no no for a fastpaced game. For this type of game, wiimote controls would actually be the worst method as there's a lot more to it than simply aiming.



It already has. I'm shocked how little people are complaining about Nintendo with this reveal. What we've seen is absolutely nothing compared to what the Wii U had going against it. Let me make this clear, the Wii U was not a bad console in any way. It just had too much stigma against it from the people who were butt hurt from the Wii/PS3 era. People are downright positive about the Switch. Although I don't know if it's enough either way though. I doubt Nintendo will be winning the generation. Nintendo needs crazy amounts of hype to win a generation. They have good hype, not great.

You have to remember how much anger Nintendo provoked during the Wii era. They almost drove Sony to bankruptcy. Sony is still recovering and the PS4 isn't really all that profitable. Sony gamers were terrified of Nintendo claiming another generation since it would pretty much kill their favorite console maker.

Microsoft still isn't much different. Investors there want Microsoft out of the gaming industry. Microsoft is O for four and they just aren't making money off the console wars.

Nintendo by comparison is profitable every generation and they made money off of mini-game compilations which hardcore gamers revile with every fiber of their being. Their big reveal for E3 one year was Wii Fit...

The only thing I'm shocked about is that gamers aren't still ready with the pitchforks and torches.



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DarkD said:
You have to remember how much anger Nintendo provoked during the Wii era. They almost drove Sony to bankruptcy. Sony is still recovering and the PS4 isn't really all that profitable. Sony gamers were terrified of Nintendo claiming another generation since it would pretty much kill their favorite console maker.

Lol more like Sony's own stupidity 



DarkD said:
It already has. I'm shocked how little people are complaining about Nintendo with this reveal. What we've seen is absolutely nothing compared to what the Wii U had going against it. Let me make this clear, the Wii U was not a bad console in any way. It just had too much stigma against it from the people who were butt hurt from the Wii/PS3 era. People are downright positive about the Switch. Although I don't know if it's enough either way though. I doubt Nintendo will be winning the generation. Nintendo needs crazy amounts of hype to win a generation. They have good hype, not great.

You have to remember how much anger Nintendo provoked during the Wii era. They almost drove Sony to bankruptcy. Sony is still recovering and the PS4 isn't really all that profitable. Sony gamers were terrified of Nintendo claiming another generation since it would pretty much kill their favorite console maker.

Microsoft still isn't much different. Investors there want Microsoft out of the gaming industry. Microsoft is O for four and they just aren't making money off the console wars.

Nintendo by comparison is profitable every generation and they made money off of mini-game compilations which hardcore gamers revile with every fiber of their being. Their big reveal for E3 one year was Wii Fit...

The only thing I'm shocked about is that gamers aren't still ready with the pitchforks and torches.

All this text, yet no explanation as to why you think the Switch somehow has more going against it than the Wii U, so I'm unable to understand why you're shocked.



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KrspaceT said:

(For the sake of this argument, let's say that the reveal was a decent success. it didn't launch with every dream game, but the launch was solid with major hits, 3rd party support while not perfect is decent, and the year goes without any major issues. Minor issues allowed)

In this hypothetical scenario the launch goes well, people are buying the system, and it has more positivity going around it than the Wii U did. Several big issues people had are dealt with (say region locking, friend codes, and such), even if one or two remain. 

Zelda is well recieved. The winter big game is well recieved. The ports and small projects are well recived. The 3rd party games sell to a point they do more later. etc etc. 

Under these conditions, will the nintendo hate that seems to be pretty thick go down? 

 

Question was posed after I put in Nintendo Fan on Youtube and got a surprising amount of hate, especially from 2-3 years ago that I think comes from about 2014 given how youtube dates things and the early status of 2017 as of now.

If Nintendo does things to please its fans and hardcore gamers, people will stop the criticism. Really there is no reason for this persecution complex, you imply like the hate Nintendo has been getting was unfair, as if people love to hate Nintendo.

Sony got tons of hate during the PS3 launch and its early years, the hate was more than Nintendo ever got. But they managed to right the ship and closed the generation with +85M consoles sold and games like The Last of Us.

This is Sony now

Let's get one thing straight Sony has never endured more widespread hate than Nintendo ever!

Them getting hate during the PS3 launch was the most deserved backlash in the industry. When you can show me a quote of Nintendo executives saying something as arrogant as get a second job if you can't afford PS3, then I'll agree with you. People quickly forgot about all of that arrogance simply because it was Sony...



I've supported Nintendo for over 20 years. Bought every console and handheld (with the exception of the original gameboy, although I did have the adaptor for the snes...oh and virtual boy of course, never had one of those). I've stuck with em through success and failure. Trust me nothing's ever gonna change people's opinions and I've reached the point where I no longer care. People hate em when they fail and hate em even more when they succeed. At least we're at a point where some are saying 'Nintendo would be better if only they'd (blah blah)' which is as close to a compliment as I think is ever gonna happen.



RolStoppable said:
KrspaceT said:

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I do want to try and possibly check out third party games at launch, if only to say that I did my 'duty', though not many appeal to me. If the options are all shooters I am sadly not interested.

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Your duty is to support good games, not to buy games because of who made them.

No one has a duty to do anything whatsoever other than find, play, and enjoy games they like.  Splatoon is a 'good' game, but since I tend not to like shooters to begin with and I don't like the setting (child squids shooting paint) it's a bad game to me.



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