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LivingMetal on 27 January 2017
Manlytears said:

Considering what i'm seeing here, i think Ps4 will take Jan. easy, alson Nintendo is taking march and april fo sure.

I'm expecting ps4 to take every month, aside from march and april, before scorpion release, and than xbox takes 2-3 months, and than we are back to normal, whit sony and microsft fighting while nintendo is just there...

I honestly do think that the Switch will pose more of a threat to Scorpio than the PS4.  Of course by the time Scorpio is released, the market will be split three ways.  The PS4 with its userbase and content is unstoppable at this point.  And I'm fairly optimistic about the launch of the Switch.  I feel like these two factors are big factors that will draw significant attention from the Scoprio since Nintendo is launching the Switch before Scorpio.



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LivingMetal on 27 January 2017
Intrinsic said:
Am I the only one noticing that the PS4pro which cost at least $130 more is selling better than the XB1s?

And we know the PS4pro usually makes up for around 20% of total PS4 sales.

I think MS should be very concerned with conceding losses of around 100k consoles in months like these.... whats the point of whatever they accomplish during the holiday seasons if in an off season month that accomplishment is just wiped clean?

Because by all indications it seems like the PS4 is taking January with at least around 40k+. Or am I missing something here.... whats their end game? Lose all the months again then win two or three months at the end of the year and call that momentum?

I think Microsoft knows that their initial mistakes affected the Xbox One as if it had launched a year later.  It seems the PS4 was an all out great gaming console when first released.  You take that and couple it with the mistakes Microsoft made which took a year for them to rectify.  But by then, the PlayStation brand was more reputable over Xbox.  And even now you look at the Xbox when compared to PlayStation, the PlayStation just has more to offer even after Microsoft has pushed out constant Xbox One promotions.  So they have to do all they can to prevent the Xbox One from appearing irrelevant to the PS4.



GribbleGrunger on 27 January 2017

4 hours since last update:

HARDWARE
#08 PS4s UC4 Bundle (same)
#33 NES (same)
#51 PS4Pro (up 1)
#56 XB1s-500gb Battlefield Bundle (up 2)

SOFTWARE (pre-orders only)**
#04 NiS Breath Of The Wild (same)
#17 Mario Kart Delux (same)
#18 WiiU Breath Of The Wild (same)
#66 PS4 Digimon World (up 6)

PS4: 2 in the top 100 / 1 in the top 50 / 1 in the top 20 / 1 in the top 10 / 0 in the top 5
XB1: 1 in the top 100 / 0 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10 / 0 in the top 5
NiS:  0 in the top 100 / 0 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10 / 0 in the top 5

Does not affect this month: *
Software outside of the month only gets added if it's in the top 20: **



 

The PS5 Exists. 


Intrinsic on 27 January 2017
LivingMetal said:

I think Microsoft knows that their initial mistakes affected the Xbox One as if it had launched a year later.  It seems the PS4 was an all out great gaming console when first released.  You take that and couple it with the mistakes Microsoft made which took a year for them to rectify.  But by then, the PlayStation brand was more reputable over Xbox.  And even now you look at the Xbox when compared to PlayStation, the PlayStation just has more to offer even after Microsoft has pushed out constant Xbox One promotions.  So they have to do all they can to prevent the Xbox One from appearing irrelevant to the PS4.

I guess... its just a really weird thing. Seeing MS throw all those promotions and stuff at the market around the holiday season to eek out 100k or less win here or there for 3-4 months in a year...... then lose to the PS4 on what are generally regarded as the slow months by like 100k for 8 months in the year.

What I am really finding shocking; how can the PS4pro be selling better than the XB1s on amazon????? How is that even possible?



Aura7541 on 27 January 2017
Intrinsic said:
LivingMetal said:

I think Microsoft knows that their initial mistakes affected the Xbox One as if it had launched a year later.  It seems the PS4 was an all out great gaming console when first released.  You take that and couple it with the mistakes Microsoft made which took a year for them to rectify.  But by then, the PlayStation brand was more reputable over Xbox.  And even now you look at the Xbox when compared to PlayStation, the PlayStation just has more to offer even after Microsoft has pushed out constant Xbox One promotions.  So they have to do all they can to prevent the Xbox One from appearing irrelevant to the PS4.

I guess... its just a really weird thing. Seeing MS throw all those promotions and stuff at the market around the holiday season to eek out 100k or less win here or there for 3-4 months in a year...... then lose to the PS4 on what are generally regarded as the slow months by like 100k for 8 months in the year.

What I am really finding shocking; how can the PS4pro be selling better than the XB1s on amazon????? How is that even possible?

This is the first non-holiday month for the PS4 Pro. Core gamers make up a higher proportion of customers outside of the holidays since price does not make as much of an impact as it would in Nov. and Dec. I think the Pro also had stock issues on Amazon for much of December.



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LivingMetal on 27 January 2017
Intrinsic said:
LivingMetal said:

I think Microsoft knows that their initial mistakes affected the Xbox One as if it had launched a year later.  It seems the PS4 was an all out great gaming console when first released.  You take that and couple it with the mistakes Microsoft made which took a year for them to rectify.  But by then, the PlayStation brand was more reputable over Xbox.  And even now you look at the Xbox when compared to PlayStation, the PlayStation just has more to offer even after Microsoft has pushed out constant Xbox One promotions.  So they have to do all they can to prevent the Xbox One from appearing irrelevant to the PS4.

I guess... its just a really weird thing. Seeing MS throw all those promotions and stuff at the market around the holiday season to eek out 100k or less win here or there for 3-4 months in a year...... then lose to the PS4 on what are generally regarded as the slow months by like 100k for 8 months in the year.

What I am really finding shocking; how can the PS4pro be selling better than the XB1s on amazon????? How is that even possible?

I know "we" tend to use Amazon as a means to gauge how well consoles are selling.  But if I were to guess why the Pro is selling better than the Xbox One S, I'd say we American's have more money than sense in worst case scenario.  The Pro is my first PS4 purchase.  And I can phantom why it isn't worth the upgrade if you already have a PS4 Slim from watching several video reviews.  But I must say that I feel more "secure" buying the Pro over the PS4 Slim.  So whether it's Pro or Slim, I does make sense to me that the PlayStation as a home console brand is going to outsell the Xbox One. Because pre Pro and Slim, PlayStation was already outselling the One.



GribbleGrunger on 27 January 2017
Intrinsic said:

I guess... its just a really weird thing. Seeing MS throw all those promotions and stuff at the market around the holiday season to eek out 100k or less win here or there for 3-4 months in a year...... then lose to the PS4 on what are generally regarded as the slow months by like 100k for 8 months in the year.

What I am really finding shocking; how can the PS4pro be selling better than the XB1s on amazon????? How is that even possible?

Exclusives + Scorpio promotions. Just as I predicted.



 

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Aura7541 on 27 January 2017

It's also worth nothing that not all of the 1.5m+ Xbox Ones sold during the December NPD period were XB1S's. I was really surprised that the OG XB1 made up a fifth of those sales. Of course, there is a limited supply of OG XB1's and once they're all gone, Microsoft can't depend of OG XB1 fire sales to boost the numbers... that is not if the XB1S bundles start receiving fire sales too.



celador on 27 January 2017

No one is winning January by 100k after how close the consoles have been recently. Gap won't even be half that I reckon



Insidb on 27 January 2017
JRPGfan said:
Intrinsic said:
Am I the only one noticing that the PS4pro which cost at least $130 more is selling better than the XB1s?

And we know the PS4pro usually makes up for around 20% of total PS4 sales.

I think MS should be very concerned with conceding losses of around 100k consoles in months like these.... whats the point of whatever they accomplish during the holiday seasons if in an off season month that accomplishment is just wiped clean?

Because by all indications it seems like the PS4 is taking January with at least around 40k+. Or am I missing something here.... whats their end game? Lose all the months again then win two or three months at the end of the year and call that momentum?

Yeah MS is probably loseing Jan by like 100k or more to the PS4, in the US.

Im not sure why Xbox only really "try" at the end of the year, to win the holidays instead of also trying the months that lead up to it.

Xbox One sales are going to drop off (abit) leading up to the release of the Scorpio too (because people are waiting for it, instead of buying).

I think we often forget that, from a amrketing and operations perspective, MS really just has to move a lot of units in the fiscal year for it to be successful. Winning NPDs or month-on-month WW sales are great for revenue, but not that effective as marketing tools. When they close out their income statements, they really just care that annual bottom line made sense. In my opinion, the XBox is now a brand that they use to assert themselves in the living room. Once the consumer is comfortable with MS as part of their entertainment center, they can push the seemingly inevitable Windows Live and Hololens platforms on them later. If I was MS, my orimary concern would be how much their profitability is affected by their holiday advertising and their price cuts, not competitive placement.