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Do you think WB should have given the greenlight on this game?

Hell yeah! 44 62.86%
 
Ew, no 26 37.14%
 
Total:70
fedfed on 28 December 2016

actually that looked OK...



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zippy on 28 December 2016

Im surprised this didnt get greenlit. The COD games were obviously vastly inferior to the twins version's, but still sold 1m plus.



LurkerJ on 28 December 2016

No loss, personally. These games have good atmospheres but everything else bored me to death.



DanneSandin on 28 December 2016

Would have been interesting to see how well this would have turned out in the end; it looks like it's in pretty early development, so it should have been better upon release. I really enjoyed Arkham Asylum on PC and am currently enjoying Arkham City on Wii U, so I would probably have given this a go if it ever were released on the Wii



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bonzobanana on 28 December 2016
h2ohno said:
The Wii cost $158 to manufacture, not including wiimotes and wii sports. Add r and d costs and marketing costs and $250 looks fine when they also want to make a relatively decent profit.

https://www.engadget.com/2006/12/15/wii-manufacturing-costs-ring-up-to-just-158/

Never take such articles as truth. The manufacturing costs of the wii would be far less than this. R&D is the huge expense. Nintendo's financial report of a few years ago showed they were making huge profits on wii hardware even at end of life when the console was selling at huge discounts. There's not much in a wii of value to ever merit $158 manufacturing costs back then and then there is all the transport, wholesale profit, retail profit, tax, duties and other stuff on top like R&D. The likely manufacturing cost was probably more like a third of that. 

A few years ago the factory door price of dvd players in China was $8-12 with their own profit on per unit and boxed. These would end at retail in the UK for £20-30. Yet using the analysis of so called costing experts just the Mediatek SOC chip itself would be $12 before you even start with the rest of the dvd player. I guess they would probably value it as $40-60 overall so pretty much 5x its actual cost for that example. 



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Goodnightmoon on 28 December 2016

That looks very nice for a Wii game



h2ohno on 28 December 2016
bonzobanana said:
h2ohno said:
The Wii cost $158 to manufacture, not including wiimotes and wii sports. Add r and d costs and marketing costs and $250 looks fine when they also want to make a relatively decent profit.

https://www.engadget.com/2006/12/15/wii-manufacturing-costs-ring-up-to-just-158/

Never take such articles as truth. The manufacturing costs of the wii would be far less than this. R&D is the huge expense. Nintendo's financial report of a few years ago showed they were making huge profits on wii hardware even at end of life when the console was selling at huge discounts. There's not much in a wii of value to ever merit $158 manufacturing costs back then and then there is all the transport, wholesale profit, retail profit, tax, duties and other stuff on top like R&D. The likely manufacturing cost was probably more like a third of that. 

A few years ago the factory door price of dvd players in China was $8-12 with their own profit on per unit and boxed. These would end at retail in the UK for £20-30. Yet using the analysis of so called costing experts just the Mediatek SOC chip itself would be $12 before you even start with the rest of the dvd player. I guess they would probably value it as $40-60 overall so pretty much 5x its actual cost for that example. 

Manufacturing costs go down over time.  It did not cost the same to manufacture a wii in 2010 as it did in 2006.  It didn't even cost the same to manufacture a PS3 in 2010 as it did in 2006.



bonzobanana on 28 December 2016
h2ohno said:
bonzobanana said:

Never take such articles as truth. The manufacturing costs of the wii would be far less than this. R&D is the huge expense. Nintendo's financial report of a few years ago showed they were making huge profits on wii hardware even at end of life when the console was selling at huge discounts. There's not much in a wii of value to ever merit $158 manufacturing costs back then and then there is all the transport, wholesale profit, retail profit, tax, duties and other stuff on top like R&D. The likely manufacturing cost was probably more like a third of that. 

A few years ago the factory door price of dvd players in China was $8-12 with their own profit on per unit and boxed. These would end at retail in the UK for £20-30. Yet using the analysis of so called costing experts just the Mediatek SOC chip itself would be $12 before you even start with the rest of the dvd player. I guess they would probably value it as $40-60 overall so pretty much 5x its actual cost for that example. 

Manufacturing costs go down over time.  It did not cost the same to manufacture a wii in 2010 as it did in 2006.  It didn't even cost the same to manufacture a PS3 in 2010 as it did in 2006.

I think I've already allowed for that in the way I worded the text and certainly I'm not going to disagree with you but neither does it normally drop to a small fraction of its original cost either. 



h2ohno on 28 December 2016
bonzobanana said:
h2ohno said:

Manufacturing costs go down over time.  It did not cost the same to manufacture a wii in 2010 as it did in 2006.  It didn't even cost the same to manufacture a PS3 in 2010 as it did in 2006.

I think I've already allowed for that in the way I worded the text and certainly I'm not going to disagree with you but neither does it normally drop to a small fraction of its original cost either. 

A fraction?  The Wii was dropped to $200 in 2009 and $150 in 2011, 5 years after it was released.  2011 was also when Nintendo started seeing losses instead of profits.  It was never sold by Nintendo for a fraction of its original price.



curl-6 on 31 December 2016

The Wii was a very under-utilised system graphically, which created the impression that it was weaker than it actually was.

Most of its games didn't even try to look good, they just did the bare minimum and called it a day. Stuff like Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, Metroid Prime 3, Resident Evil Darkside Chronicles, etc showed that when devs actually made an effort, it could produce better visuals than most gave it credit for.