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Miyamotoo said:
zorg1000 said:
Anybody who thinks Mario Maker isn't coming to Switch, whether it be a port or sequel, is naive.

At the last quarterly report, SMM had sold 3.73 million so lifetime sales should total 4-5 million.

The 3DS version is on track to crossing 1 million in Japan alone, with the rest of the world added on 2-3 million is very likely, if not more.

With both platforms combined 7-8 million doesn't seem unrealistic and i highly doubt Nintendo is just going to abandon the new concept with sales like that.

Sry but those numbers are nothing compared to NSMB/U (previous 2D Mario platformers) numbers for instance. Point is that 2D Mario platformer games have good sales numbers.

I dont get what your point has to do with anything.



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Miyamotoo said:
zorg1000 said:
Anybody who thinks Mario Maker isn't coming to Switch, whether it be a port or sequel, is naive.

At the last quarterly report, SMM had sold 3.73 million so lifetime sales should total 4-5 million.

The 3DS version is on track to crossing 1 million in Japan alone, with the rest of the world added on 2-3 million is very likely, if not more.

With both platforms combined 7-8 million doesn't seem unrealistic and i highly doubt Nintendo is just going to abandon the new concept with sales like that.

Sry but those numbers are nothing compared to NSMB/U (previous 2D Mario platformers) numbers for instance. Point is that 2D Mario platformer games have good sales numbers.

Forgive me if I am misunderstanding your point, but ANY time a Nintendo game goes over a million or close, those are good sales. They may not be top notch but I think Miyamoto or some Nintendo higher stated in a interview or investor discussion earlier last year. most games outside of massive budget ones like Zelda, usually break even with a 500,000 in sales, making them a success. The bigger games require much more but are usually offset by other games selling well or to expectations .

Super Mario Maker, is by no means a small game but it isn't costing Nintendo a massivee amount hence 3-4 million on the Wii U is a success and whatever they get from the 3DS port is probably just additional gravy. Now does that mean they are going to rush off to make Super Mario Maker a annual franchise, that is doubtful. But no doubt we will see another version of the game down the line or something similar to it in another franchise. People are asking for a Zelda Maker, which among the bigger stand alone franchises would be the ideal next step besides redoing Mario Maker with another one of Nintendo's platform stars.



NoirSon said:
Miyamotoo said:

Sry but those numbers are nothing compared to NSMB/U (previous 2D Mario platformers) numbers for instance. Point is that 2D Mario platformer games have good sales numbers.

Forgive me if I am misunderstanding your point, but ANY time a Nintendo game goes over a million or close, those are good sales. They may not be top notch but I think Miyamoto or some Nintendo higher stated in a interview or investor discussion earlier last year. most games outside of massive budget ones like Zelda, usually break even with a 500,000 in sales, making them a success. The bigger games require much more but are usually offset by other games selling well or to expectations .

Super Mario Maker, is by no means a small game but it isn't costing Nintendo a massivee amount hence 3-4 million on the Wii U is a success and whatever they get from the 3DS port is probably just additional gravy. Now does that mean they are going to rush off to make Super Mario Maker a annual franchise, that is doubtful. But no doubt we will see another version of the game down the line or something similar to it in another franchise. People are asking for a Zelda Maker, which among the bigger stand alone franchises would be the ideal next step besides redoing Mario Maker with another one of Nintendo's platform stars.

Mario Maker is 2D Mario platformer, and my point is those numbers are not impressive for 2D Mario platform game, compare them with any previous 2D Mario platform game and you will get picture. So if Nintendo make completely new 2D Mario platformer game (and probably will), again will have great sales of at least couple of millions.

Maybe I am wrong, but I dont see Mario Maker is new Nintendo franchise, mostly because that's just spin off of 2D Mario platform game.



Miyamotoo said:

Maybe I am wrong, but I dont see Mario Maker is new Nintendo franchise, mostly because that's just spin off of 2D Mario platform game.

I do, it's a welcome change from them churning out NSMB after NSMB trash. Just making a 2d Mario with a Level Editor is so much better, considering all the NSMB games are essentially the same, just with other levels and a new power-up thrown in for good measure.

I fully expect a Mario Maker title on the Switch. The next title might have a full campaign included, but I can't see a new 2d mario game coming out that doesn't have a level editor anymore. At least one without a MAJOR overhaul compared to previous entries. If they just put out "NSMB SWITCH" it'd be a complete joke.



Barkley said:
Miyamotoo said:

Maybe I am wrong, but I dont see Mario Maker is new Nintendo franchise, mostly because that's just spin off of 2D Mario platform game.

I do, it's a welcome change from them churning out NSMB after NSMB trash. Just making a 2d Mario with a Level Editor is so much better, considering all the NSMB games are essentially the same, just with other levels and a new power-up thrown in for good measure.

I fully expect a Mario Maker title on the Switch.

But I what I recall Nintendo already said they are moving away from NSMB and going for different and new type of 2D Mario, so they ditching NSMB in any way, and I dont think that new type of 2D Mario is Mario Maker.



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Miyamotoo said:

But I what I recall Nintendo already said they are moving away from NSMB and going for different and new type of 2D Mario, so they ditching NSMB in any way, and I dont think that new type of 2D Mario is Mario Maker.

Maybe, regardless it would be a shame for the new 2D mario to not have a level editor too though. It's a great feature that would really add longevity to the titles. But I can see them dropping the "Mario Maker" name. But I hope the next 2d mario has both a full story mode and a level editor.



Barkley said:
Miyamotoo said:

But I what I recall Nintendo already said they are moving away from NSMB and going for different and new type of 2D Mario, so they ditching NSMB in any way, and I dont think that new type of 2D Mario is Mario Maker.

Maybe, regardless it would be a shame for the new 2D mario to not have a level editor too though. It's a great feature that would really add longevity to the titles. But I can see them dropping the "Mario Maker" name. But I hope the next 2d mario has both a full story mode and a level editor.

Well that's different thing, whole point about Mario Maker is level editor, creating levels you or other makes.



Miyamotoo said:
Barkley said:

Maybe, regardless it would be a shame for the new 2D mario to not have a level editor too though. It's a great feature that would really add longevity to the titles. But I can see them dropping the "Mario Maker" name. But I hope the next 2d mario has both a full story mode and a level editor.

Well that's different thing, whole point about Mario Maker is level editor, creating levels you or other makes.

I don't view it as a different thing, it's just Mario Maker with some premade levels slapped on it. xD



Better question .... which Nintendo game sold 3 million+ WW and *did not* get a sequel?

I honestly can't think of any. Maybe Nintendo Land I guess, but that's only because it was force bundled with the Wii U. 

Mario Maker ... like Mario Kart or Paper Mario, is a new Mario-themed Nintendo franchise. That's just all there is to it. There's going to be *many* more Mario Maker games unless the next one flops.

Mario Maker on Nintendo Switch is just a question of "when?", not "if".