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thismeintiel on 23 December 2016
TheGreatOther said:
Snoopy said:

Phil Spencer is different from Don who bought the time exclusive campaign rights to COD and BF. Phil could've easily kept that up, but he wanted to make new games and come up with new ideas. It's been working because xbox one is selling like crazy right now. This is what made me love the ps3 a lot was the exclusive game after another. Not to mention third party games are becoming less and less frequent and more and more the same.

Care to elaborate on that?

Cause upcoming games funded by MS are:

Scalebound

Sea of Thieves

Halo Wars 2

Crackdown 3

State of Decay 2

 

And For Sony they include:

Horizon Zero Dawn

Dreams

Days Gone

Detroit: Become Human

Death Stranding

Spiderman

Gravity Rush 2

Gran Turismo Sport

Gravity Rush 2

Knack 2

The Last of Us Part II

Hotshot's Golf

MLB The Show 17

WiLD

Matterfall

Drawn to Death

What Remains of Edith Finch

 

Microsoft's video game producion is the worst it's ever been. 343i, The Coalition, Turn 10 and Rare are the only first party stuios they have that make games. 

There's also the fact that he HAS kept up with that practice.  It's just that they obviously can't do it as often or with the larger titles anymore.



 

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KingofTrolls on 23 December 2016
thismeintiel said:

There's also the fact that he HAS kept up with that practice.  It's just that they obviously can't do it as often or with the larger titles anymore.

Of course ! That's why he complains about it. Human nature, sadly, is exatly like that.



SWORDF1SH on 23 December 2016
jason1637 said:
lionpetercarmoo said:

Dead Rising 4 timed exclusive deal was made when Phil was in charge.

I doubt it. When 3 was being made they were already planning 4. Devs plan their next game while making the one they are already making. Knowing Dead Risings history on the xbox360 im sure Mattrick got 3, and 4.

SWORDF1SH said:

Don't you think publishers would be more open a marketing and exclusive DLC deal than just a marketing deal.

Giving a console exclusively first doesn't help the Devs it mostly just helps the consoles company like Sony,MS,Nintendo.

So publishers do exclusive content from the goodness of their heart? That's a little naive to think it doesn't help the devs and publishers. 



LudicrousSpeed on 23 December 2016
KiigelHeart said:
Hehe those SW and Destiny ads were cheeky and clever 😁

Never even heard of the SW one, but I agree. Its bizarre what angers people nowadays. I don't think I could possibly care any less about what these companies market, lol.



TheGreatOther on 23 December 2016
LudicrousSpeed said:
KiigelHeart said:
Hehe those SW and Destiny ads were cheeky and clever 😁

Never even heard of the SW one, but I agree. Its bizarre what angers people nowadays. I don't think I could possibly care any less about what these companies market, lol.

Really didn't expect you of all people to say that considering you seem extremely bothered by Sean's marketing tactics judging by your sig.



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LudicrousSpeed on 23 December 2016
TheGreatOther said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Never even heard of the SW one, but I agree. Its bizarre what angers people nowadays. I don't think I could possibly care any less about what these companies market, lol.

Really didn't expect you of all people to say that considering you seem extremely bothered by Sean's marketing tactics judging by your sig.

That's because lying isn't marketing :)



TheGreatOther on 23 December 2016
LudicrousSpeed said:
TheGreatOther said:

Really didn't expect you of all people to say that considering you seem extremely bothered by Sean's marketing tactics judging by your sig.

That's because lying isn't marketing :)

Just admit it, you're a MS fanboy who will spin anything to defend your corporate overlords. 

Phil is just crying because Nadella won't give him the money to buy exclusivity for stuff so he's trying to make these deals seem like a bad thing.

 

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LudicrousSpeed on 23 December 2016
TheGreatOther said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

That's because lying isn't marketing :)

Just admit it, you're a MS fanboy who will spin anything to defend your corporate overlords. 

Phil is just crying because Nadella won't give him the money to buy exclusivity for stuff so he's trying to make these deals seem like a bad thing.

Not sure why you're getting personal but thanks for the laughs, friend.



jason1637 on 23 December 2016

 

 

SWORDF1SH said:
jason1637 said:

I doubt it. When 3 was being made they were already planning 4. Devs plan their next game while making the one they are already making. Knowing Dead Risings history on the xbox360 im sure Mattrick got 3, and 4.

Giving a console exclusively first doesn't help the Devs it mostly just helps the consoles company like Sony,MS,Nintendo.

So publishers do exclusive content from the goodness of their heart? That's a little naive to think it doesn't help the devs and publishers. 

They do it because the $$$



TheGreatOther on 23 December 2016

If the low number of 3rd party deals MS makes these days resulted in them funding more games it'd be pretty great.
But they seem to have stopped doing that as well. There's like 5 games coming out in the future that MS has invested in and 2 of them were announced at E3 2014, 2 and a half years ago. They closed down most of their studios last year as well.

I'm interested in seeing how they plan to market Scorpio with no exclusive games or even 3rd party marketing deals considering Sony has all the big games like Resident Evil 7, Mass Effect Andromeda, Destiny 2, Call of Duty, Star Wars Battlefront, Red Dead Redemption 2 as far as marketing and DLC exclusivity goes.

I hope Phil's plan isn't to just break down and start crying during interviews about how exclusive marketing rights aren't fair.