He hasnt tweeted in 5 days...

We could also wait to see.how close VGC estimates are to what Window Central is saying.

VGC estimates are also unhelpful, so depending on those is meaningless...

Well first is that MS probably knows t he numbers. In yhe last few NPDs they have said they were the best selling console befote leaks come out. They just arent allowed to say the numbers but can claim they sold best. Also MS has never compared their hardwarr to their competitors in such a way Bandorr was saying.

Just out of curiosity are consoles sales in Nov linked to how COD performs? 

He's actually tweeting right now and has been over the last few days.

I tweeted him last night about it but had no reply. 

Oh. My apologies on my phone it showed that he hadn't tweeted in 5 days but i see his recent tweets on my laptop. 

Strange that Greenberg would retweet those numbers, whether true or not. "Hey look, our numbers are way down from last year but we didn't get outsold by as much as you might think!" Fact is, both systems would be down quite a bit.

But this is strictly for Black Friday (the singular day) that we're talking here, a day for the value shopper... So why would we expect people to go out in droves to pick up a Ps4 pro, not only during the busiest shopping day of the year but also on a day when there were no ps4 pro bundles or sales? Now consider that Sony themselves said they were surprised by the amount of first time buyers for the Pro as opposed to early Og adopters double dipping. Would it be reasonable to assume that the pro is siphoning off the slims sales? I think that's reasonable. Again, Sony implied that they thought pro owners would more so be double dippers than people new to the brand.

Now, after taking all that into consideration...last year was Sonys best Black Friday ever for sales in the US. Something like 1.54 million on that day. Why would it be terrible if they didn't perform as well as their best Bf ever which was last year when we know that the Pro didn't have any sales yet people are migrating to the premium model in droves?

I just think it's too early to say much until we see how the month did. With the focus of Black Friday becoming more and more like a week of sales rather than a day, and where the information that we're speculating on only focuses on one single day out of that week, and knowing that there were no extra incentives for people to go after the pro during this day then it starts to become apparent that our dataset is skewed and incomplete.

I'm confused, I thought the 1.0 and 1.1 figures were for the month, not for the BF weekend?

Sooooooo pricecuts to both consoles and the release of new HW like the PS4 Pro is not what US consumers want?