People will get hurt no matter who wins. 

I think you have lost travk of where this started . So let me point oit exactky what i responded to. 

See the bolded part? I divided into two parts for you. 

The first part. The "you think/might/maybe" part I have no issue with. That's just an opinion and you are entitled to have it. 

The second part, is what I have an issue with. Cause that is not an opinion anymore. you are making a statement. and that statement is false. 

It's false because since this gen started, Sony has not once announced their NPD numbers. They have not boasted about their sales. Meaning they have not changed any tone. If anything, them releasing NPD numbers (which would be great) would be them actually doing something different from what they have done these past three years. 

I have made it clear that I would like them to release numbers. That's not in debate here. You have given your opinion on why you think they don't, which I don't agree with but that's not in debate either. 

but you ended all that with a statement that suggests they are being dubious by not releasing their numbers. and cited them always boasting about them in the past so why stop now. And that statement is false.  

http://bgr.com/2014/02/11/playstation-4-sales-2014-sold-out/

https://www.cnet.com/news/sony-playstation-4-passes-7-million-in-worldwide-sales/

http://www.polygon.com/2016/1/5/10717142/ps4-lifetime-sales-35-9-million-holiday-2015

Here's a few examples of articles covering PS's boasting over the years. While not to the same level as MS when they are ahead, it still happened.

First off, the "changing their tone" line wasn't separate like that when I wrote it. You separated it and changed it, which changes how my post read, so already your twisting it. You also left some of that post out.

Secondly, I wasn't talking about any specific numbers, I was speaking about sales, and things like the comments given by PS when they win. When you look back to everything PS was saying back then, their tone has changed. They went from bragging a lot, to saying very little, if nothing at all.

That wasn't my original post either. My original said it could mean PS doesn't care because they are winning handily right now, or maybe things didn't go as well as they would have liked. I clearly thought it could be either or. 

http://bgr.com/2014/02/11/playstation-4-sales-2014-sold-out/

https://www.cnet.com/news/sony-playstation-4-passes-7-million-in-worldwide-sales/

http://www.polygon.com/2016/1/5/10717142/ps4-lifetime-sales-35-9-million-holiday-2015

Here's a few examples of articles covering PS's boasting over the years. While not to the same level as MS when they are ahead, it still happened.

First off, the "changing their tone" line wasn't separate like that when I wrote it. You separated it and changed it, which changes how my post read, so already your twisting it. You also left some of that post out.

Secondly, I wasn't talking about any specific numbers, I was speaking about sales, and things like the comments given by PS when they win. When you look back to everything PS was saying back then, their tone has changed. They went from bragging a lot, to saying very little, if nothing at all.

That wasn't my original post either. My original said it could mean PS doesn't care because they are winning handily right now, or maybe things didn't go as well as they would have liked. I clearly thought it could be either or. 

They gave lots of updates at the start to show people they were selling well. They don't need to give such regular updates now everyone knows they are so far ahead.

It's bizarre that you are judging Sony on how often they update us on their numbers, instead of how much they actually sell each year.

They gave lots of updates at the start to show people they were selling well. They don't need to give such regular updates now everyone knows they are so far ahead.

It's bizarre that you are judging Sony on how often they update us on their numbers, instead of how much they actually sell each year.

Oh my God are you kidding me? I changed it?

you said two things in one paragraph. I seperated them to make it clear which of the two i and an issue with because I thought it was a lie. Part of the paragraph was an opinion. The other part was a statement. 

and all those example you showed? That's nowhere near the same thing as outright giving numbers for NPD. That's just PR talk which they all do one way or another. And the numbers given are as I have pointed out multiple times worldwide numbers. Again. not and never NPD numbers in the 8th gen. 

And for the last time, I even pointed out which of your posts and what exactly in it you said that prompted a reply from me. I don't know how plainly or simply I can put any of this anymore.