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Forums - Sales Discussion - Japan : FF XV is the worst FF debut ever on PlayStation Consoles

naruball on 08 December 2016
forethought14 said:
Lol, that's too bad. "It's okay considering the state of the Japanese market-" No, it's not ok. Look at Splatoon, a random game about Squids shooting eachother with ink will be the best selling console game this generation. Final Fantasy is a damaged brand, there's nothing "okay" about it.

Yes, let's look at Splatoon and judge every game based on its performance. That makes sesne. Let's also compare every rpg with Pokemon and every shooter with COD.



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Teeqoz on 08 December 2016
Farsala said:
Teeqoz said:

This doesn't hold up because the PS4's installbase at FFXV's launch is about the same as the PS3's installbase when FFXIII launched, yet FFXIII sold twice as much.

It does if overall physical retail sales are below it at the same point in time. (Which I cannot confirm, but definitely suspect with digital.)

And not only that but the biggest non launch week for PS4 just happened at 118k compared to 220k+ for PS3. Clearly the console market is split or having problems when it cannot produce a 1m seller, but it is doing a much better job at it then the Vita which has even higher install base and is a handheld in Japan.

Edit: And the Wii U can accomplish many 1m sellers and even one is near FFXIII sales. (Splatoon) But it has less install base in proportion to PS3. Makes you wonder why this happens? So then we have the 3 home consoles and their differences.

PS4: Diversity, but low price HW (Faster adoption of HW)

PS3: Launch hiccups with lots of games going to Xbox 360, FFXIII being the first big JRPG to have PS exclusive in Japan, Eventually became diverse, High price HW (Slower adoption of HW)

Wii U: Lack of diversity, High price HW (Slow adoption of HW)

So bottom line is we can't always use install base to make fair comparisons, despite it being so fun :).

Here's what the person I quoted said "I disagree with any notion that it's to do with the franchise declining". Which, I mean, he (and you for that matter) can disagree with any notion of that for as much as you want, but evidence shows that it has a lot to do with the franchise declining, more so to do with that than it has to do with PS4 adoption in Japan. I didn't say that the Japanese home console market hasn't decreased from last gen. I'm just saying that FFXV's huge fall in sales has primarily due to the franchise itself declining.



Wright on 08 December 2016
naruball said:

Nicccccce. My copy can't get here fast enough ;)

I can provide you with said content while you wait for the copy to arrive.



naruball on 08 December 2016
Wright said:
naruball said:

Nicccccce. My copy can't get here fast enough ;)

I can provide you with said content while you wait for the copy to arrive.

But les spoilers



Wright on 08 December 2016
naruball said:
Wright said:

I can provide you with said content while you wait for the copy to arrive.

But les spoilers

Just of the four poster boys.



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cutzman25 on 08 December 2016

From the fact that just a few months ago I read that the PS4 sold a million consoles in Japan I would say a number of 690k sales is great. Possibly 50% of all users picked the game up week 1



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AZWification on 08 December 2016

Thanks, Lightning.



                
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weaveworld on 08 December 2016

So basically continueing with the infamous Lightning series they hurt their fanbase even more...

But... considering strong digital sales the attach rate might be a little bit higher. Famitsu puts fw at 716k btw, thats already 1% up from 18.

I am curious about the rest of the world's numbers. And how it's legs will be. Possibly better than XIII's because, well... Lightning.



Mummelmann on 08 December 2016

Trump's fault, no doubt.

OT: That's pretty low for Japan, still more than most games can dream of but low given that it's a FF title. Will we someday soon have the actual Final Fantasy?!?!



fielding88 on 08 December 2016

It's great to come here and read these historical numbers. It's really quite sobering when you come across articles like this:

http://powerupgaming.co.uk/2016/12/07/ps4-sees-a-massive-jump-in-japanese-sales-propelled-by-monumental-final-fantasy-xv-launch/

"The impressive sales numbers for the PS4 were no doubt propelled by the monumental launch of Final Fantasy XV, which sold around 700,000 units (690,471 – M-Create / 716,649 – Famitsu)."

"Monumental launch." Should we tell him?



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