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Nautilus said:

It still dosent change the fact that the Switch may have a killer first year.Winning the generation and having great games available on other systems dosent cancel each other out.

But it does cancel out sales, none are buying a switch for Cod Battlefield the next Battlefront Madden Fifa Mass Effect ex.  Without the mass market support it does cancel out it having a killer year.  

So it shall come down to the nin loyal for the most part, wiiu repeat mor eor less.  

PS4 happend casue of sony learning form their mistakes, switch looks like the same old nintendo doing its own telling peopel what they should like.  



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JGarret said:
Nautilus said:

Thanks!I really appreciate the fact that you took the time to read it!

And yeah, it is a heaven for JRPGs lovers, especially now that it seems that its making a comeback.But its not like Sony needs to make that much of an effort to get those games on its system.Nintendo failed this gen on the home console front, and Microsoft is making zero effort to trying to get those games to at least port for the XBox, not to mention that there is not much of an audience there for those games.So the developers kind of make the games for the PS4 by default.Yes, some of them are starting to come to Steam, but they always come to PS4 dfirst, and almost always first on it.

Maybe that will change with the Switch, but only time will tell!

MS most likely no longer cares about JRPGs that aren´t main entries of Final Fantasy games.Last gen they tried to make the 360 the home of JRPGs on home consoles with hopes it could finally perform at least decently in Japan but it made very little impact.

Well, yeah, but it isnt a good excuse to stop trying.Scalebound is a good start, but one game wont make a difference.If they contempt themselves with only a part of the market with no intention of expanding to other genres or other types of games, they will eventually become less and less relevant, simply because the competition will do a better job.The process of winning over japanese developers wont happen overnight, its long and painful process.They need to keep trying.And if they cant, they really need to compensate that with more new and exciting games.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Sony isnt winning based on exclusives alone lol. They are winning because of MS,/Nintendo messing up, better hardware, better versions of AAA games, and exclusives.



Egelo said:
Nautilus said:

It still dosent change the fact that the Switch may have a killer first year.Winning the generation and having great games available on other systems dosent cancel each other out.

But it does cancel out sales, none are buying a switch for Cod Battlefield the next Battlefront Madden Fifa Mass Effect ex.  Without the mass market support it does cancel out it having a killer year.  

So it shall come down to the nin loyal for the most part, wiiu repeat mor eor less.  

PS4 happend casue of sony learning form their mistakes, switch looks like the same old nintendo doing its own telling peopel what they should like.  

You couldnt be more wrong.The Switch seems like to be correcting all wrongs that Nintendo did with the Wii U, from marketing to game droughts.Not only that, but saying that the Switch will be Wii U all over again, with everything pointing the other way around(developers praising the machine, gamers response to the reveal being very positive, looking to have a great first year and so on).One thing is to be pessimist about it, other thing is just hating on it.

And you simply didnt understand what I meant.Winning a generation dosent mean that a multiplatform game cant sell well on the other platforms, or that people wont be interested in other systems.I mean, if that were true, XOne wouldnt be getting any support now, since the PS4 is clearly outselling it, and it wouldnt be doing so well in the US right now.As long as the developer can get a profit out of the port, it will port its games to other systems.And if the Switch manages to do just that, it will receives games.It may not receive all games, but it will receive some, and can very well compensate the rest with first party support.And by consequence, it will improve its chances to sell more units.Winning the generation dosent cancel the fact that other systems cant sell well.And, for all we know, The Switch may outsell the pS4 in the long run.Even Scorpio can do that.Its unlikely, but not impossible.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

jason1637 said:
Sony isnt winning based on exclusives alone lol. They are winning because of MS,/Nintendo messing up, better hardware, better versions of AAA games, and exclusives.

Yes yes.I just didnt write every single reason because it would simply become a gigantic post, but I captured that idea on the third paragraph.

But the bigger reason they are winning is because they know what to do.The did what they did because they understood what we wanted, and that reflects on this conference.Nintendo and MS failing is simply because they failed to understand as Sony did.Thats what Im trying to say.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

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jason1637 said:
Sony isnt winning based on exclusives alone lol. They are winning because of MS,/Nintendo messing up, better hardware, better versions of AAA games, and exclusives.

This point needs to be emphasized. 1st party they've been utter meh to me.



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Nautilus said:
Egelo said:

Games games games games for all.

Its why the kick ass and shame the competition.

 

I can guarantee it wont, and you just explained exactly why.

after the wiiu i havent a shread of trust towards them.

It still dosent change the fact that the Switch may have a killer first year.Winning the generation and having great games available on other systems dosent cancel each other out.

It also doesn't change the fact that Nintendo has again sacrificed the power of their console for a gimmick. 



Egelo said:
Nautilus said:

It still dosent change the fact that the Switch may have a killer first year.Winning the generation and having great games available on other systems dosent cancel each other out.

But it does cancel out sales, none are buying a switch for Cod Battlefield the next Battlefront Madden Fifa Mass Effect ex.  Without the mass market support it does cancel out it having a killer year.  

So it shall come down to the nin loyal for the most part, wiiu repeat mor eor less.  

PS4 happend casue of sony learning form their mistakes, switch looks like the same old nintendo doing its own telling peopel what they should like.  

It also depends on when they offer something new before some Nintendo fans such as myself will hop on board. A new Mario and ports of several games is nowhere near enough to get me to hop on board.



bigtakilla said:
Nautilus said:

It still dosent change the fact that the Switch may have a killer first year.Winning the generation and having great games available on other systems dosent cancel each other out.

It also doesn't change the fact that Nintendo has again sacrificed the power of their console for a gimmick. 

Maybe.That one still needs to be seen.If the Switch is capable enough to port most games to it, then I would say its a no-issue not being more powerful than PS4, for the trade off it gives.And I would hardly call the portability a gimmick.Its a good feature, and I personally like much more than Nintendo simply making a box that the only advantage it has is raw power.We already have two of them, which both have/will have two revisions.Thats enough in my opinion.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Nautilus said:
bigtakilla said:

It also doesn't change the fact that Nintendo has again sacrificed the power of their console for a gimmick. 

Maybe.That one still needs to be seen.If the Switch is capable enough to port most games to it, then I would say its a no-issue not being more powerful than PS4, for the trade off it gives.And I would hardly call the portability a gimmick.Its a good feature, and I personally like much more than Nintendo simply making a box that the only advantage it has is raw power.We already have two of them, which both have/will have two revisions.Thats enough in my opinion.

That will be a double edged sword is the problem. 3rd parties won't think twice about porting a game that's a sloppy port while docked and practically unplayable in handheld mode. And it seems for every bit of praise it gets, it's also followed up by statements such as "it's gonna be great for the family" and "we want to approach making games that best fit for the Switch" all the while a ton of major 3rd party games are announced with no Switch version.

 

As a Nintendo fan I hope this time next year I'm eating crow.