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This is like when 'Lil Wayne criticized Black Lives Matter saying that racism doesn't exist because he's black and rich.



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I don't see why the actor's strike has anything to do with programmers and why it matters who deserves more money.



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JRPGfan said:

Hes highly successfull and probably made tons of money.
Most other VA's arnt as fortunate as him.

Im not sure if hes against the VA that are on strike, or just means to say programmers/artists for said games should also get paid better?

Programmers are treated horribly too in the game industry, worse than VA's are, and they work longer/harder.

Alot of people getting a education as a programmer, are being told dont do it for the money, or the easy work, you wont get paid anything and will be worked to death doing it. Reality is unless your extremly passionate about it, gameing isnt what most programmers aim for, because its a rough ride.

Well, that is because most VA aren't as talented and valluable as him?

Sharing profits means you being part of the reason for that profit to exist, not only a point in the middle of the occurence.

So he is very right, if the guys don't perform to a level that is what is bringing money they shouldn't be asking for the money.

Also, are the VA also wanting to share the losses when those happen?

JRPGfan said:
d21lewis said:
If they're not careful, Nolan North will voice every single character in video games, by himself.

Why would anyone want that? a highly tallented VA doing lots of works for games? my that sounds horrible :p

Okay eventually some would get tired of always hearing the same voice....

Well, I heard japan have like a dozen male porn actors for thousand female actress and the most famous of the males said he felt sad because it must be boring to see he all the time in all the movies.

shikamaru317 said:

That's real easy for him to say, he's the highest paid of all video game voice actors, he's in just about every game released in the last decade. The vast majority of video game voice actors are underpaid, they get just a few small roles a year, and are forced to work a 2nd or even 3rd job just to make ends meet. I'm not saying that the developers don't deserve better too, they most certainly do. It's time for developers and actors to unite and go on strike together until the publishers give them a bigger piece of the giant pie. Many of these games make billions of dollars, yet the developers and actors together might be lucky to get 15% of that revenue between them (split about 400 ways), the rest goes to pay some fat cat executive's bloated paycheck. 

And why do you think he is in all the games and the others have small roles very sparcely? Because they don't bring the same value to the production and thus won't have more money just because they want and think deserve.

No they aren't forced to work 2nd or 3rd job to make ends meet. If they do very small roles during very limited times of the year you can't even say their primary occupation is being VA.

Yes, sure there is so much profit being made... not like several companies are going bankrupt, should proggramers, devs and VAs pay for the companies going bankrupt? Nope, they unfortunately get fired and may miss a payment or another, but they aren't debted for the harshes of the company. They are being paid what they agreed to work for.



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DonFerrari said:
JRPGfan said:

Why would anyone want that? a highly tallented VA doing lots of works for games? my that sounds horrible :p

Okay eventually some would get tired of always hearing the same voice....

Well, I heard japan have like a dozen male porn actors for thousand female actress and the most famous of the males said he felt sad because it must be boring to see he all the time in all the movies.

It is sad, but not for the reasons he's saying. What is said is how sexism is still so rampant there that there are thousands of women who are pressured into partaking in sexual acts for a living while a much smaller number of men have to do that.



vivster said:
I don't see why the actor's strike has anything to do with programmers and why it matters who deserves more money.

Seems like he was trying to draw attention to the fact that, while voice actors are demanding royalties, the people who actually make the games aren't typically incentivized to sell more copies except by the prospect of keeping their jobs.



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shikamaru317 said:

The vast majority of video game voice actors are underpaid, they get just a few roles a year, and are forced to work a 2nd or even 3rd job just to make ends meet.

How does that make them underpaid? Would you expect them to make a living working just a few times a year?



shikamaru317 said:
DonFerrari said:

And why do you think he is in all the games and the others have small roles very sparcely? Because they don't bring the same value to the production and thus won't have more money just because they want and think deserve.

No they aren't forced to work 2nd or 3rd job to make ends meet. If they do very small roles during very limited times of the year you can't even say their primary occupation is being VA.

Yes, sure there is so much profit being made... not like several companies are going bankrupt, should proggramers, devs and VAs pay for the companies going bankrupt? Nope, they unfortunately get fired and may miss a payment or another, but they aren't debted for the harshes of the company. They are being paid what they agreed to work for.

It's not just the lesser known voice actors that aren't being paid enough. There are some high profile voice actors taking part in this strike as well, people like Phil LaMarr and Jennifer Hale.

Just because they are forced to work a 2nd or 3rd job they shouldn't consider themselves to be voice actors? Even though that's what they want to be, what they've trained for, even paid for voice coaching lessons to become? I'm not saying these smaller voice actors should be paid the big bucks, many of them do nameless NPC voices and such, but they should make more than they are now. Some of them get paid a couple hundred dollars a day and only record a few days a month, that barely even covers the cost of the flight to the voice recording location if the actor doesn't live near where the recording is taking place. 

Thats why its something you do on the side. Its not a job you can make a living from, so instead of dealing with that, they are trying to force publishers to make it something its not. There are many other jobs VAs can try to pursue out there.



badgenome said:
vivster said:
I don't see why the actor's strike has anything to do with programmers and why it matters who deserves more money.

Seems like he was trying to draw attention to the fact that, while voice actors are demanding royalties, the people who actually make the games aren't typically incentivized to sell more copies except by the prospect of keeping their jobs.

Yeah, but the article makes it sound as if what he's saying is somehow an affront to the striking actors. I don't see what the two things have to do with each other. As if it's the actor's fault that some totally unrelated job is badly paid.



If you demand respect or gratitude for your volunteer work, you're doing volunteering wrong.

They should be working together. Nolan North is being a total asshole here.



shikamaru317 said:

That's real easy for him to say, he's the highest paid of all video game voice actors, he's in just about every game released in the last decade. The vast majority of video game voice actors are underpaid, they get just a few roles a year, and are forced to work a 2nd or even 3rd job just to make ends meet. I'm not saying that the developers don't deserve better too, they most certainly do. It's time for developers and actors to unite and go on strike together until the publishers give them a bigger piece of the giant pie. Many of these games make hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars, yet the developers and actors together might be lucky to get 15% of that revenue between them (split anywhere between 200 and 1000 ways depending on how many people worked on the game), the rest goes to pay some fat cat executives' bloated paychecks. 

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