Fact is Trump lost the popular vote by the largest margin in history for a winning president and his electoral college victory was fairly precarious, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin will likely be blue next time because they are historically blue states. 

Clinton took them for granted and was a boring/dull candidate with a lot of baggage who didn't campaign enough. Both Sanders or Biden would've beaten Trump and held that blue wall. 

Tell that to Alex Jones:

Berie would have lost, hes to much a socialist for any one but brainwashed collage kids to vote for him.

Biden who in the hell knows.  He was not even in a primary, saying hed do well is no different thinking then all those that had Bush as a shoe in till Trump anahilated him.  

Time change, historuically blue states might be red for a long time.  Peopel are since of PC BS, facts being racist and the mentally ill extremist left.  They just want a job and ability to pay bills not fairy tale diversity utopias and whatever otehr bs the left is peddling.  

I take it English is not your first language. 

Bernie Sanders is actually the only credible candidate who will do anything for the working class. Trump is a phony who picked up on the populist rhetoric because he's a salesman. That's what he does. He tells people what they want to hear to close the deal. His cabinet appointments already betray that. 

Trump is the most unpopular president to be elected in modern history, he lost the popular vote by 2 million and he turned the Rust Belt sure, but the margin was a razor thin one, those areas are pro-union, lets see how they react once they realize a lot of what Trump shovelled was bullshit. 

"Fact is" actually I think most Americans agree on many key issues. Notably:

1.) The ultra rich should pay more taxes. 

2.) There should be tighter immigration, but there should be amnesty for immigrants already here. Get them legal and paying tax. People don't want families ripped apart. 

3.) Let gays marry.

4.) Let those who want to smoke pot, smoke pot. Tax it. The "war on drugs" is a colossal failure. 

5.) Americans want universal, single payer health care. Health care is a right, not a privelege. 

6.) Abortion is regrettable, but should be legal. 

These are issues that have majority backing in the US. The conservatives are the ones on the losing side of every one of these, a Trump presidency doesn't change that, it only delays certain things for 4-8 years. 

None what you said even supports your opninion.  You actully say and prove why Trump would beat him.

bernies a good guy but that does not win you elections. 

Ok as far as 3 - let gays marry.

since when is trump agianst that ? you dont even know wtf you are talking about.  

He was talking 8 years at his acceptance speech. This is old stuff.

To your point about Sanders, I think he would've carried Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. He's a far more likable candidate, more popular with millenials, even and did not have the baggage that Clinton had being tied to NAFTA.

To beat Trump in those States you'd only have to swing about 100k votes. I think both Sanders and Biden (who is from Pennslyvania) would've done that without much fuss. Clinton has always had problems in these States, she showed weakness in the Rust Belt and states like Iowa against Obama in '08 and again against Bernie in 2016 (who shouldn't have even had a chance). 

Truth is though both parties lie to this group, those jobs are never coming back because there's no reason for any corporation to hire Americans to do those jobs when 10 people in China are willing to do the same job for 1/8 the salary and no vacation/dental/medical pay on top of that. 

My broader point about that list is the majority of Americans generally speaking embrace ideals today that the conservative movement has basically been on the wrong side of for 20+ years now. And that's not changing, every 4 years, more and more old people die off.

Trump's VP pick is also notoriously anti-LGBTQ, he's supported "conversion" therapy which is basically sending gay kids to a camp to try and "convert" them to being straight (not even joking, this is a thing). 

Another two I forgot to add to my list

7.) Vast majority of Americans support tighter gun control and background checks on people purchasing fire arms. 

8.) Most Americans support raising the minimum wage. 

Again, if we made elections actually about issues, conservatives are on the wrong side of the fence on a lot of the core issues. 

Liberals are centrists, not leftists. The communists and anarchists are the leftists.

"Tolerant Non-Violent Left" screams bait. I'd change that

kk Ill make it plain and dull just for you.