First, in Steam there are plenty of people playing with laptops. so under 30 fps is there. Then you forgot what PC gaming isn't (currently) 100% about:

- Bloodborne

- Naughty Dog

- Team Ico (soon with The Last Guardian)

- Red Dead games

- and many other PlayStation exclusives

Then it isn't really about Final Fantasy. World of FInal Fantasy is exclusive for PS4, for example. FF XV isn't planned for PC.

Also what console playing isn't really about:

- Cheaters and bot spammers.

In any case from what I read around HDR > 4K. Which makes sense to me. I'd rather have more (beautiful) colors than more pixels which benefit disappears at a distance. But yes, the high end PCs do have the 60 and above fps. For much more money, though.

Isnt that what sony wants? They want you to invest into console gaming instead PC gaming

As someone that bought a PC for better graphics towards the later half of PS2 and PS3, PS4 Pro has completely eliminated the thought of doing that this time around. So, Sony has at least one customer that won't be buying a PC as per the patern they saw in the past.

I do, however, have full intentions of buying a Scorpio next year two finally catch up on all of the Microsoft studios games I missed since 2012 when I last had a X360.

So, Sony and Microsoft have done everything right with PS4 Pro and XBS for me. As far as I can tell, I will never own a PC again.

Nice to have an objective reaction from someone they did convince, Personally I skipped the PS4 Pro but I am interested in the Scorpio next year, same reasons as you to play some games I've missed and to get the best console experience available for some third party games I don't like buying on pc (mainly EA games because I hate origin)

Anyway, if the only reason was graphics and not performance and you are into 4k gaming and own the TV or will own the TV capable I understand, but that seems to be sutch a small margin of people it would 1) be really strange to make a console for them and 2) only sway a very small portion :)

It´s more likely that it was a reaction to the NX announcement a few years ago. It was even supposed to launch this year initially.

I think, as usual, PlayStation tries (and usually succeeds) to sell itself as "all things to all people". It probably isn't the thing to dissuade people from going to PC--if people actually are going to PC. The console market seems to be where all of the excitement is-- but that won't stop Sony from trying to get every dollar they can. If one person sees that comment and buys a Pro, be did his job.

*Edit* heck, I vaguely recall a quote from the PS2 era (I think) where Sony said they weren't even competing with other video game consoles. They're competing with movies, TV shows, sports--anything that consumes our time. 

Pretty sure it was to avoid the 7th gen situation of 1080p TVs becoming fairly common halfway in but consoles games mostly unable to use them.

Keep in mind Steam has over 125m (old figure) users . Between native 4K users, Surround users, 1080p/1440 120hz users etc...not to mention those that have their PC connected to their 4K TV's not as a main display, millions already have the capability to drive higher resolutions to a 4K TV.

PS4 Pro is just a 4K upscaler for all intents and purposes.

1800 checkerboard is not 4K. That's like saying 720p/1080i is 1080p.

When games like Battlefield are already struggling on the base PS4, I think the idea is that further in the generation peoples consoles will feel especially obsolete and that would push them towards PC gaming even if they prefer consoles. I think that comment was about providing an option for those who prefer console experiences, not about selling PS4 Pro to existing PC gamers who "require" 60fps 1440p in order to enjoy a game.

Well, I'll say this.

I'll accept 30 FPS on certain console games... Specifically, exclusives. On PC, I will not play a game with the FPS below 60. My monitor is a 144 hz display, and two of them are 1080p monitors.. The other is 1600 x 900, or something. I use use that as a resource monitor more than anything else.

The 144hz display is also a 1ms gray to gray display, with 9ms of display lag. My other monitor, an HDTV, I got when I didn't know what I was doing, is an HDTV, with 32ms of display lag. I do not play games on that TV anymore. Period. The HDTV is a spot I use for everything that isn't gaming.

I got sick of seeing trips coming in Tekken, and not being able to block them. I was so serious about it that it, a PS3 game, made me upgrade the main display for my PC. I still get tripped, yeah. But not when I see it coming. I've been more than happy.

Then, the added bonus of being able to turn OFF vsync! No more screen tearing, smooth 90 FPS in Batman: Arkham Knight and Overwatch?

As for 4k, no, I don't care. I'd rather max out the graphical settings, and push higher frame rates. 4k at 20FPS isn't worth it. Running all my games at max settings, 1080p @ 144 FPS is the bigger priority. I can run anything beyond 90 because at some point, I'll get frame drops, and even if it's just 3 or 4, it bugs me to no end.

I originally wanted the PS4 Pro, but after seeing the games were not going to be 60FPS across the board, I didn't see a reason to upgrade. That alone killed any desire I had for the Pro. Not interested in HDR, I just wanted everything to run smoothly.