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pokoko on 20 November 2016

I have absolutely no problem with ports, especially when you're targeting people who might have missed playing those games.

The only potential issue is that it looks like these are more than just ports. If Nintendo has internal development teams still working on new content for games like Mario Kart or Mario Maker, that makes me wonder if new games are going to be delayed further. That would kind of suck for Wii U owners who are done with those games.



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KLXVER on 20 November 2016
Wyrdness said:
KLXVER said:

Well its nice of you to believe the Switch is already a success, but if it shouldnt take off then its us Nintendo fans that are stuck with these remasters.

Problem with this argument is that Nintendo fans include the 60m who also bought the 3DS like I told Pav even if every Wii U owner had a 3DS and they decided not to buy the Switch that still leaves 48m possible consumers which is more than any Nintendo home platform except for the NES and Wii. Essentially 48m fans would not have had access to these games so to them it would be new regardless of what Wii U owners say.

Again thats 48 million people that didnt think the WiiU was worth it for those franchises.



Wyrdness on 20 November 2016
KLXVER said:

Again thats 48 million people that didnt think the WiiU was worth it for those franchises.

That 48 million have only one platform to migrate to for portable gaming and they get access to games from the platform they didn't want to invest in.



gcwy on 20 November 2016
Nautilus said:
gcwy said:

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From Wikipedia:

Wii launch titles:

U.S. launch: November 19, 2006

Wii U launch titles:

Exactly my point.Taking out the third party title, that the Switch will obviously have(they simply havent been announced yet), the Switch exclusives simply look and seem better.The Wii had TP and Wii Sports as the great titles(with maybe one or another title) with TP being a crossplatform title.and the Wii U had NSMBU and Zombie U.So so far, The Switch seem far better, and that is not even the full lineup.

Hmm? This was never about which has the better (subjective) games. Fact is, the current lineup is embarrassingly weak compared to Nintendo's other consoke launch titles.



Slarvax on 20 November 2016
KLXVER said:
Wyrdness said:

Problem with this argument is that Nintendo fans include the 60m who also bought the 3DS like I told Pav even if every Wii U owner had a 3DS and they decided not to buy the Switch that still leaves 48m possible consumers which is more than any Nintendo home platform except for the NES and Wii. Essentially 48m fans would not have had access to these games so to them it would be new regardless of what Wii U owners say.

Again thats 48 million people that didnt think the WiiU was worth it for those franchises.

Also 48m people that thought the 3DS library justified not getting a Wii U. Switch solves that, it will get Wii U + 3DS + new games in 2017, and probably new games only going forward. 3DS ate some Wii U sales. Smash, MK, 2D Mario, 3D Mario, Zelda, and others came out earlier on the 3DS and were cheaper than on Wii U. With the Switch, that can't happen. Handheld and home console library will be in one system only.

Also, 3DS userbase is more like 40m if you ask me. There's a lot of people that owned multiple 3DS systems.



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Frogger on 20 November 2016
KLXVER said:
spemanig said:

Like if you're the average consumer.

Well its nice of you to believe the Switch is already a success, but if it shouldnt take off then its us Nintendo fans that are stuck with these remasters.

It's not about what's nice. It's about business sense. These are new games to most people because most people didn't buy a Wii U. Doing stuff like this are what will make it a success in the first place. The whole point of the Switch is having it sell well. If it even sells a mere 50m units, that means that over 35m people owning a Switch will have never owned or likely played any of these games. I don't know how much more clear I can be. Wii U owners literally are not relevant in this equation. We were merely beta testers for the games of a hopefully better system.



KLXVER on 20 November 2016
Wyrdness said:
KLXVER said:

Again thats 48 million people that didnt think the WiiU was worth it for those franchises.

That 48 million have only one platform to migrate to for portable gaming and they get access to games from the platform they didn't want to invest in.

Ok, then what about the Switch owners who didnt own a 3DS. Are they getting Mario Kart 7 and Super Mario 3D World? No, because remastering those for the Switch would actually take some work. Im sure the people who missed out on MK8, Smash and Splatoon will be ok with playing the sequels.



KLXVER on 20 November 2016
spemanig said:
KLXVER said:

Well its nice of you to believe the Switch is already a success, but if it shouldnt take off then its us Nintendo fans that are stuck with these remasters.

It's not about what's nice. It's about business sense. These are new games to most people because most people didn't buy a Wii U. Doing stuff like this are what will make it a success in the first place. The whole point of the Switch is having it sell well. If it even sells a mere 50m units, that means that over 35m people owning a Switch will have never owned or likely played any of these games. I don't know how much more clear I can be. Wii U owners literally are not relevant in this equation. We were merely beta testers for the games of a hopefully better system.

Kinda says it all about how much Nintendo cares about their core fans, huh?



Frogger on 20 November 2016
RolStoppable said:

There won't be a new SMB at launch when the 3D Mario game is rumored to be a launch title. However, that doesn't rule out a new SMB later in 2017. Meanwhile, the remasters can be viewed as confirmation that those series won't get sequels in 2017.

There would be a reason to be upset about the 2D Mario situation if there is no news on it in January, because right now almost no new Nintendo games have been confirmed. No need to make a fuss about it at the moment, because there will still be plenty of time to rage about it later.

I don't think so. If 3D Mario is the star of the launch, I'd wait until honestly at least Summer 2018 before starting to get nervous.

I have so much to say about 2D Mario, though. I hope it's getting a reboot. They can do so much better than NSMB, and it's giving 2D Mario a bad rep.



Frogger on 20 November 2016
KLXVER said:
spemanig said:

It's not about what's nice. It's about business sense. These are new games to most people because most people didn't buy a Wii U. Doing stuff like this are what will make it a success in the first place. The whole point of the Switch is having it sell well. If it even sells a mere 50m units, that means that over 35m people owning a Switch will have never owned or likely played any of these games. I don't know how much more clear I can be. Wii U owners literally are not relevant in this equation. We were merely beta testers for the games of a hopefully better system.

Kinda says it all about how much Nintendo cares about their core fans, huh?

Who cares?