All true. Nintendo has stamped industry templates throughout the generations. I stand by my ***** post though. My Move got about 10 minutes of use until I relegated it to the dungheap. There's a reason nobody waggles anymore. It's a dark story.

I gotta agree with Lipe. I remember it very clearly. Sony and Microsoft starting advertsing dual screen/asymmetrical gaming once Nintendo revealed WiiU. Did they make it a major pillar of their design philosophy? No. More likely it was done to demonstrate they could do the same thing offered by WiiU. But I'm positive it was done to take the spotlight away from Nintendo.

if we are to be honest and realistic, depending on its price, the switch would at best sell as well as the last Nintendo handheld. Look at the Nintendo console. There are only about 15M people willing to buy a Nintendo home console. And only god knows how many of those also had a Nintendo handheld too. 

the only thing that the switch has done is combined nintendos hardware portfolio. It's nit revolutionary. no more as revolutionary as plugging the PSvita into a TV. Only thing now is that it represents a united front for Nintendo. That's it. 

So as I said, it would be at best as successful as a Nintendo handheld. And thats assuming it's successful. which I think it should be able to pull off and allows nintendos work in a niche of its own without ever really worrying about competing with Sony and MS. 

They can't make a hybrid.

It's too late to hybrid the PS4 and the PS5/Scorpio is too powerful.

They would have to make their own dedicated handheld and that brings with it it's own problems. Meanwhile if Nintendo's next portable fails, a scenario that has never happened, they still have the option to move upstream with less demanding, mass market IPs for VR.

I figure Sony and MS will just continue doing their own thing. I don't see them following Nintendo with this hybrid console idea, as they are kinda busy with their own ideas.

Though, if the Switch is a major success, I could see both companies giving it more consideration.

I don't think the Xbox brand is threatened by Switch whatsoever. They already counter it with better hardware and online. Sony might face some competition since they're also Japanese branded and their online is weak, but they still beat the Switch with performance.

Software is Nintendo's ace, but knowing them it'll be slim pickings at launch and for the first year.

@Bolded: Have you not been paying attention to Sony for the past couple years now?  Their online experience isn't exactly weak.  Online functionality has been a mainstay during the entire run of the PS4 and a large part of the PS3 days.

But if you do both it could also mean that it can be both.That argument go both ways.

The PS4 excuse is a bad example, simply because the PS4 wasnt designed from the start to be portable as an handheld.I think a better example as to how Switch is a hybrid console, due to it being designed from the start to be so, is the example you gave comparing the PS camera for the PS 2 and the Wii.Yes, if you bought all the extra components and acessories, the PS2 could also have motion controls for very specific games, but the PS2 wasnt designed around that.In other words, if you bought the base model, it was just a traditional console.The Wii in the other hand, it was a motion control based system from the get-go, with all games potentially having those type of controls if the developer put them in.It was designed that way.Same with Vita and VitaTV.Thats why, even if you transport a PS4 from one place to the other, it will still be a home console, while the Switch is a hybrid.It is pretty obvious.

Again, the third paragraph is simply answered by my first paragraph.Just because it has a screen to it, dosent mean its primerely a handheld.The same way that just because the Wii dont have tradicional controllers, it dosent mean it isnt a home console.Tecnology evolves, and what we might have considered yesterday features essentials for a phone, for example, can have totally different functions tomorrow, even if it retains the basic functions of what a phone is supposed to be.The same works for consoles.I mean, back to your weak controller argument, back in the 80s the "traditional controller" was completely diferrent of what we see as a controller nowadays, yet we call the same thing.Plus the regular controler for the Switch is the joy-cons, which can turn into a more regular looking controller, which is another point that makes your argument moot.

And as for the carts, really?Physical media is what defines a console?For your information, outside of price, carts are superior to discs in every way.Or most anyway.Plus, in the past regular physical media was guess what?Carts.So yeah....

In the end, the obvious design is a hybrid system, wether you like to admit it or not.It was designed that way.It is being marketed that way.I dont know how on earth you can read that message any other way.

Pls elaborate. I'm really interested to hear more on this notion of yours. 

And thats where this whole theory of yours falls flat on its head. They couldn't even make a hybrid PS4/XB1 if they wanted to Those consoles are already too powerful to fit into a handheld from factor as is. What kinda batter would power them? how big would they be? How would they fit that massive fan and heat sink into it?

This is why I keep saying what I've said. The switch is a handheld console. it was designed for that. Eveeything about how it was designed ensures it can work in a handheld capacity. It's not a home console. It just has a dock. There is a world of difference when designing a home and a mobile console. The differences are so much that it's just not possible to design something that does both perfectly. 

By the time 3nm fabrication comes along, which could very well be in another 8-10yrs, you will have PS4 level hardware that can fit into a handheld form factor. but by then, the home consoles would have significantly more powerful chips than that that fits into a console form factor. Complete with massive Dan's and heat sinks and massive PCUs..... it's a cycle. 

the two markets aremt the same. no matter how much you want them to be. 

I wouldn't agree with that at all.  Last month PSN was hit hard twice by DDoS attacks and there's been reports recently that PSN accounts in the U.K. are regularly hacked.  I'm not trying to start a flame war, but it's pretty obvious to anyone who's not a fanboy that Sony's online infrastructure is weak comparatively.