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Entropio on 15 November 2016
Pavolink said:
Kai_Mao said:

You also got Mario 64 launching with the N64 and that sold like gangbusters during its launch year. Unfortunately the lack of further titles, especially those from third party, did the console in.

TP had the luxury to be released with Wii Sports, which was the ultimate killer app for the Wii, regardless of what impact TP had at launch.

And you're also comparing 2D Mario (which ultimately got criticized for being too similar to the other NSMB games) and 3D World (to which some here claim isn't a "true" 3D Mario which is kinda weird) to potentially the "true" 3D Mario game akin to Galaxy, Sunshine, and 64. Of course we dont know everything about it but you can't dismiss a 3D Mario game especially as a launch game.

Like I said in the other thread, Mario does not have the same impact on launch as Zelda. Mario is an evergreen title and people can wait. This does not apply to Zelda. Even if the game sells only a half, more Zelda fans are willing to buy new hardware than 3D Mario fans.
                               

I kinda agree with Pavolink here. Especially after all the hype created last E3 with the special demo, BotW is the game all hardcore nintendo gamers are waiting for, and "delaying" it will create a negative buzz (it's already creating it) that can harm somehow the console launch. "Hardcore nintendo gamers" are not the ones that will make the console a success, but they are the first ones that will buy the console and attracting them the sooner possible its crucial to create critical mass to attract new consumers and third parties. Especially launching in March and not during Holidays: many Mario buyers will wait until Christmas or their birthday to buy the Switch, while Zelda sales should be more front-loaded, moving consoles from the beginning.

Mario has a broader general appeal than Zelda, and a great appeal among nintendo fans, but there isn't such a big hype with it as with BotW, and except it proves to be something really revolutionary on Jan 12 , it probably won't move nintendo fans as Zelda would. Of course it's nothing irreparable, and launching with a main 3D Mario is probably the 2nd best option for Switch, but it's a missed oportunity.

Maybe 3D Mario + another hardcore nintendo franchise (ideally Metroid, though F-ZERO could also send a good message to dissapointed Nintendo fans) could fill the Zelda hole, or a really good 3rd party support. I guess we have to wait and see.



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Platina on 15 November 2016

As long as we still get the Wii U version, then okay.. :/



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ninjapirate42 on 15 November 2016
Hiku said:
ninjapirate42 said:
If it's delayed please don't push it to 2017 Christmas :(
A few extra months won't kill me but Christmas might

Imagine being a big fan of FFXV then. It was first revealed in 2006.



Ofc there were several FF games in the meantime to hold you over though.

Was FFXV really announced then? :o

FFXIII only came out in 2009 o.O



Xen on 15 November 2016
ninjapirate42 said:
Hiku said:

Imagine being a big fan of FFXV then. It was first revealed in 2006.



Ofc there were several FF games in the meantime to hold you over though.

Was FFXV really announced then? :o

FFXIII only came out in 2009 o.O

FFXV was originally FFvXIII :3



gatito on 15 November 2016

Release it on Black Friday 2017.



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StuOhQ on 15 November 2016
Cloudman said:
Miyamotoo said:

I guess we could have it in May, we had Mario Kart in May 2014. and Splatoon in May 2015.

As long as there are some new games, I won't really complain with a May release

Agreed. If they launch in March with Mario and hammer home Zelda in May, that would be an impressive launch window that wouldn't destroy sales for either title. Then the question becomes... what is the Holiday title if they've already got new Mario and Zelda games out of the gate?

Surely neither the remasters nor Pikmin are big enough for a headliner? Maybe there's a third party exclusive in store for us? Maybe another big first party game will be unveiled at E3?



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Pavolink on 15 November 2016
Entropio said:
Pavolink said:

Like I said in the other thread, Mario does not have the same impact on launch as Zelda. Mario is an evergreen title and people can wait. This does not apply to Zelda. Even if the game sells only a half, more Zelda fans are willing to buy new hardware than 3D Mario fans.
                               

I kinda agree with Pavolink here. Especially after all the hype created last E3 with the special demo, BotW is the game all hardcore nintendo gamers are waiting for, and "delaying" it will create a negative buzz (it's already creating it) that can harm somehow the console launch. "Hardcore nintendo gamers" are not the ones that will make the console a success, but they are the first ones that will buy the console and attracting them the sooner possible its crucial to create critical mass to attract new consumers and third parties. Especially launching in March and not during Holidays: many Mario buyers will wait until Christmas or their birthday to buy the Switch, while Zelda sales should be more front-loaded, moving consoles from the beginning.

Mario has a broader general appeal than Zelda, and a great appeal among nintendo fans, but there isn't such a big hype with it as with BotW, and except it proves to be something really revolutionary on Jan 12 , it probably won't move nintendo fans as Zelda would. Of course it's nothing irreparable, and launching with a main 3D Mario is probably the 2nd best option for Switch, but it's a missed oportunity.

Maybe 3D Mario + another hardcore nintendo franchise (ideally Metroid, though F-ZERO could also send a good message to dissapointed Nintendo fans) could fill the Zelda hole, or a really good 3rd party support. I guess we have to wait and see.

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Cloudman on 15 November 2016
StuOhQ said:
Cloudman said:

As long as there are some new games, I won't really complain with a May release

Agreed. If they launch in March with Mario and hammer home Zelda in May, that would be an impressive launch window that wouldn't destroy sales for either title. Then the question becomes... what is the Holiday title if they've already got new Mario and Zelda games out of the gate?

Surely neither the remasters nor Pikmin are big enough for a headliner? Maybe there's a third party exclusive in store for us? Maybe another big first party game will be unveiled at E3?

Perhaps we'll find out at next year's E3??



 

              

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Raven on 15 November 2016

Yuck, hopefully its not true or at the very least hoping the Switch has another major title to soften the blow of Zelda not being there at launch.



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Luke888 on 15 November 2016

One day, when BotW will get released, I'll tell my grandsons that I was aout their age when the game was first announced.

Seriously though if this is the case then imho it's 100% Nintendo's big May game