Nvidia are making Nintendo look bad, with all this bs PR. I hope switch doesn't flop, gaming industry needs nintendo to keep MS and Sony in check. but it kind of feels familiar to Wii U launch and i m pretty sure nintendo will be able to sell NS at cheap coz basically they took plans for scrapped Nvidia shield 2 and "switched" a bit eliminating major R&D cost. Wont be suprised if switch fails, they will go exclusive to apple devices.

Lol, why!?

Actually everything about Switch, with first trailer and full reveal 2.5m before reveal actually looks totally opposite to Wii U.

Holy poop chute! it's the first time I've seen you get angryish / upset on here. I think this proves it, Nintendo makes you angry... it makes you... SWITCH *b'dumtish*

:p

Yep, basically xD

Something that has bothered me since NVidia released its press release on the Switch's was they used the word "scalable" to describe the chip. When chip makers use this terminology they are referring to how much they can modify the chip architecture to get more power out of it.

So it makes me think this. Looking back at how Nintendo has handled it handhelds in the past they like releasing updated, more powerful versions of the handheld every several years, and with this practice now being used at least in this generation for the PS4 and slim Xbox One. Nintendo may be planning to fuse the tradition console generation and what is used by Smart Phones and pads. And release an updated version of its Switch every few years with a more powerful SOC, making the new Switch backwards compatible with the other versions.

And with NVidia's proprietary APIs it makes easier to replace the chips without affecting bc. Plus with Nintendo's addition of interchangeable controllers this may be the console that Nintendo plans on sticking with for awhile.

Please tell me that you just used Volta as an example, because the chances of Nintendo using Volta architecture on the Switch is not even zero but negative. Maxwell at worst or Pascal at best, those are the two chances, not anyone else.

On the calling the Switch weak and underpowered, something that I haven't done, I agree that isn't fair, but given that the device also replaces the WiiU and is designed in part to work as a home console, comparing it to the current competition in the home console space is not unfair, and it's even needed when it comes to discussing third party support.

Lastly, about the dock providing a high performance boost, that idea is only backed by the internet speculation (that believes that having a dock that doesn't provide extra performance is silly) against what Nintendo said after the teaser reveal: "The main function of the Nintendo Switch Dock is to provide an output to the TV, as well as charging and providing power to the system." (via IGN). Given that I don't remember any tweet or anything from Rogers or any other insider saying otherwise (note that I don't say that they don't exist, only that I don't remember them), I'll trust Nintendo more than "the internet".

Miyamotoo, we've already discussed the power consumptionthing in another thread, so I'm not going there again. I know it's a lost battle and I have better ways to lose my time.

But what you seem to forget is that the Switch also has to run the game in portable mode, and in that mode it won't be able to use those 20W (far from it), but it will also have to power the screen, leaving even less than half those 20W for games. If you take into consideration that games must run in both modes and that no, lowering the resolution won't magically solve the problem, you'll be better if you start to lower your expectations before you get disappointed.

Nvidia CEO just said that Switch is groundbreaking. Since nothing apparent on the outside is groundbreaking he must be talking about the GPU. Volta confirmed!

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3125456/hardware/nvidia-teases-volta-gpu-in-next-gen-xavier-self-driving-car-computer.html

because they want to build something that’s portable and transformable.

Change of form... Become something else... Stop to be only a handheld device...

Maybe we talk about it before, but fact is that you can't really compare power consumption of AMD tech from 2012 and Nvidia tech most likely form 2016.

Of Course, it's expected that games will be run in much lower clocks in handheld mode while in docked mode will be running at full or higher clocks. And just 720p in portable mode, compared to 1080p in docked mode make big difference in power.

Please stop before someone believes it!