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hunter_alien said:

Ok. Lets talk number than CoD BO 3 sold 12 milion retail in the US alone. Battlefiled 3 (the best selling in the series as far as I know) did 7. We already know that BF1 opened below BF3 in the UK ( if you wish to even deduct anything from one mid-size market). Lets say that LT CoD drops 40% from BO3 (I still doubt it will and I am ready to bet on that) that would still put IW at well over 7 million, above where BF3 ended its run (tough sales indicate it will do somewhere between 4 and 3, and that would put us at 5). Even so, just in the US, just at retail it would have a ~2.5 million lead, and the game will most deffinatly end up performing better WW, especially as it became the de-facto FPS on the PS4.

Did we even included the fact that you needed a digital preorder to play MW remaster day1? No? Well, guess what, for many gamers that is a serious draw. But even in best case scenario, I simply cannot see BF1 gettin in as close as 5 million to IW. Sorry, I simply cannot see that happening. But again, we will have to play the waiting game to be absolutly certain.

If BF1 can manage that, kudos, I bow to you and especially to EA as they managed to finally get close to their arguably biggest nemesis when it comes to a rival IP.

That's great and all but i have for you a better analysis:

Black Ops III sold 22 million by end of March 2016, this including digital. We know it sold 1.85 million in USA only at retail for the first 3 months of 2016, and other 250k in UK. It's legit to expect something like 3.5 million worldwide including digital for the first quarter of 2016, so this would put Black Ops III at 18.5 million units sold in 2015.

Just drop this number by a optimist 35% (If not 40% or more), and you have something like 12 million for Infinite Warfare. If not less. Battlefield 1 did less than Battlefield 3 at retail, BUT, if you including digital sales, it sold better than EVERY other DICE games at launch. This mean Battlefield 1 launch, including digital, was bigger than Battlefront and Battlefield 3. Battlefield 3 sold 5 million first week, and was at 8 million by end of November 2011. If you add December sales,  it easy sold over 10 million the first year, and so far, Battlefield 1 is doing better than Battlefield 3. 



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hunter_alien said:
tbone51 said:

Want to bet? Shipment numbers it wont be #1 for 2016 (includes digital obviously)

 

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What are we comparing it to? BF1? Sure, I take the bet

You said #1 so that means it doesnt matter what beats it. Ex if titanfall2 is best selling game i win. (Not that i think it will lol)



Ryng_Tolu said:
hunter_alien said:

Ok. Lets talk number than CoD BO 3 sold 12 milion retail in the US alone. Battlefiled 3 (the best selling in the series as far as I know) did 7. We already know that BF1 opened below BF3 in the UK ( if you wish to even deduct anything from one mid-size market). Lets say that LT CoD drops 40% from BO3 (I still doubt it will and I am ready to bet on that) that would still put IW at well over 7 million, above where BF3 ended its run (tough sales indicate it will do somewhere between 4 and 3, and that would put us at 5). Even so, just in the US, just at retail it would have a ~2.5 million lead, and the game will most deffinatly end up performing better WW, especially as it became the de-facto FPS on the PS4.

Did we even included the fact that you needed a digital preorder to play MW remaster day1? No? Well, guess what, for many gamers that is a serious draw. But even in best case scenario, I simply cannot see BF1 gettin in as close as 5 million to IW. Sorry, I simply cannot see that happening. But again, we will have to play the waiting game to be absolutly certain.

If BF1 can manage that, kudos, I bow to you and especially to EA as they managed to finally get close to their arguably biggest nemesis when it comes to a rival IP.

That's great and all but i have for you a better analysis:

Black Ops III sold 22 million by end of March 2016, this including digital. We know it sold 1.85 million in USA only at retail for the first 3 months of 2016, and other 250k in UK. It's legit to expect something like 3.5 million worldwide including digital for the first quarter of 2016, so this would put Black Ops III at 18.5 million units sold in 2015.

Just drop this number by a optimist 35% (If not 40% or more), and you have something like 12 million for Infinite Warfare. If not less. Battlefield 1 did less than Battlefield 3 at retail, BUT, if you including digital sales, it sold better than EVERY other DICE games at launch. This mean Battlefield 1 launch, including digital, was bigger than Battlefront and Battlefield 3. Battlefield 3 sold 5 million first week, and was at 8 million by end of November 2011. If you add December sales,  it easy sold over 10 million the first year, and so far, Battlefield 1 is doing better than Battlefield 3. 

Yeah, sorry, but you simply dont have any numbers to back those claims, so we are back to speculate. Best DICE launch digitally? By how much? How much did it do? We have 0 numbers. You dont know, I dont know. It might also be a marketing stunt and it might be revenue, number, user number wise or simply outselling the other game by 1 copy. Admit it, your guess is just as good as mine.



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tbone51 said:
hunter_alien said:

What are we comparing it to? BF1? Sure, I take the bet

You said #1 so that means it doesnt matter what beats it. Ex if titanfall2 is best selling game i win. (Not that i think it will lol)

Cool. But we are taking raw sales numbers, not bullshit number of player and whatever other garbage stats Blizzard/Ubi might throw to us for marketing purposes



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hunter_alien said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

That's great and all but i have for you a better analysis:

Black Ops III sold 22 million by end of March 2016, this including digital. We know it sold 1.85 million in USA only at retail for the first 3 months of 2016, and other 250k in UK. It's legit to expect something like 3.5 million worldwide including digital for the first quarter of 2016, so this would put Black Ops III at 18.5 million units sold in 2015.

Just drop this number by a optimist 35% (If not 40% or more), and you have something like 12 million for Infinite Warfare. If not less. Battlefield 1 did less than Battlefield 3 at retail, BUT, if you including digital sales, it sold better than EVERY other DICE games at launch. This mean Battlefield 1 launch, including digital, was bigger than Battlefront and Battlefield 3. Battlefield 3 sold 5 million first week, and was at 8 million by end of November 2011. If you add December sales,  it easy sold over 10 million the first year, and so far, Battlefield 1 is doing better than Battlefield 3. 

Yeah, sorry, but you simply dont have any numbers to back those claims, so we are back to speculate. Best DICE launch digitally? By how much? How much did it do? We have 0 numbers. You dont know, I dont know. It might also be a marketing stunt and it might be revenue, number, user number wise or simply outselling the other game by 1 copy. Admit it, your guess is just as good as mine.

No, you don't understand, best DICE launch EVER.

Not digitally, but DIGITAL + Retail.

I have 0 numbers? I showed you that Battlefield 3 sold over 5 million first week, and over 8 million by end of November 2011.

http://venturebeat.com/2011/11/30/battlefield-3-sales-top-8-million-copies/

This mean Battlefield 1 first week did over 5 million, and is on track for beat what Battlefield 3 sold in 2011.

I have no source for say Battlefield 3 sold over 10 million in 2011 but i mean let's be serius, was at over 8 million in November, you believe it has not sold another 2 million in the intere December?



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hunter_alien said:
tbone51 said:

You said #1 so that means it doesnt matter what beats it. Ex if titanfall2 is best selling game i win. (Not that i think it will lol)

Cool. But we are taking raw sales numbers, not bullshit number of player and whatever other garbage stats Blizzard/Ubi might throw to us for marketing purposes

You really still don't get what's the game he expect to outsell COD, do you?

(I'll give you a clue, it's not an Activision, EA, Ubisoft, or Rockstar game. Who remain?)



Ryng_Tolu said:
hunter_alien said:

Cool. But we are taking raw sales numbers, not bullshit number of player and whatever other garbage stats Blizzard/Ubi might throw to us for marketing purposes

You really still don't get what's the game he expect to outsell COD, do you?

(I'll give you a clue, it's not an Activision, EA, Ubisoft, or Rockstar game. Who remain?)

It starts with the lettwer P...



Culipechi said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

You really still don't get what's the game he expect to outsell COD, do you?

(I'll give you a clue, it's not an Activision, EA, Ubisoft, or Rockstar game. Who remain?)

It starts with the lettwer P...

No, Pokemon wont outsell it. Sorry, fat chance. Im still taking the bet any day.

Edit: typo (best = bet).



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Ryng_Tolu said:
hunter_alien said:

Yeah, sorry, but you simply dont have any numbers to back those claims, so we are back to speculate. Best DICE launch digitally? By how much? How much did it do? We have 0 numbers. You dont know, I dont know. It might also be a marketing stunt and it might be revenue, number, user number wise or simply outselling the other game by 1 copy. Admit it, your guess is just as good as mine.

No, you don't understand, best DICE launch EVER.

Not digitally, but DIGITAL + Retail.

I have 0 numbers? I showed you that Battlefield 3 sold over 5 million first week, and over 8 million by end of November 2011.

http://venturebeat.com/2011/11/30/battlefield-3-sales-top-8-million-copies/

This mean Battlefield 1 first week did over 5 million, and is on track for beat what Battlefield 3 sold in 2011.

I have no source for say Battlefield 3 sold over 10 million in 2011 but i mean let's be serius, was at over 8 million in November, you believe it has not sold another 2 million in the intere December?

Thats pretty cool. Im still expecting IW to do more than that I love how cocky people have become after the launch of CoD in the UK. I wonder what will happen after the Pro starts flying off the shelves and most people wil pick up a copy of IW with it. Again, we do not have concrete numbers, and there is no reason to continue this untill the numbers are in



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hunter_alien said:
tbone51 said:

You said #1 so that means it doesnt matter what beats it. Ex if titanfall2 is best selling game i win. (Not that i think it will lol)

Cool. But we are taking raw sales numbers, not bullshit number of player and whatever other garbage stats Blizzard/Ubi might throw to us for marketing purposes

Of course. Official ship ments. From the company quarter report