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superchunk said:
oniyide said:

im pretty sure at this stage most people interested in those games have another console

Then why are MSony making new versions already? Why is the total console sales lower Gen over Gen?

Logically, you are right. But that is not the point. Each console having the same basic 3rd party offerings is good for the 3rd party and the consumers. Exclusives and actual hardware differences is where the choice comes, Capcom shouldn't care which console the latest Resident Evil game is purchased from as that should yeild the same level of profit as the other consoles. 

Those games should be left as-is, unless the console manufacturer is paying for something of value, to ensure consumer expectations are met. Doing something unique is better served with new IP.

we know why console sales are down for the gen, good ol Ninty went from selling 100mil to 12mil

If you know im right what is the issue? But the thing is they do NOT yield the same level of profit, which is why we saw support stop so fast on the Wii U. If i make a game that sells a mil on one system another mil on another and 200 thousand copies on another, guess which system is less likely to get support later? and you cant blame 3rd parties for that.

I do agree with your last point, but i think you are jumping the gun. I believe that Switch wont get a lot of games from 3rd parties and what Capcom is reffereing to is giving Switch completly different games. No different than Wii situation



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bunchanumbers said:
gatito said:

It means that they won't do bland and unispired ports of games avaliable in every single console, the Switch version has to stand out somehow.

Bland and uninspired is exactly what core gamers want. They don't care about how unique it is. They want their Maddens, CoDs, and FIFAs on a regular controller. They also don't want compromises in order to make the game work on the system, and that is what we're most likely to see. 3rd party will be making all sorts of sacrifices in order to make a game fly on Switch. Eventually they will have to pretty much break their games to do it, and it will be too much effort.

I'm thinking that by the end of next year we'll hear next to nothing from 3rd party devs when all their big AAA franchises can't work on Switch.

I am unfortunately thinking this as well. The only thing we can hope for is it to be adopted like the Wii forcing developers to take notice.



Soundwave said:

Problem with this line of thinking is with the budgets of games today, are companies really going to put huge efforts into Switch games?

PS4/XB1 will be at around 80 million combined by year end, and 85 million-ish by the time the Switch even sells 1 unit.

Also Capcom's support for the 3DS outside of Monster Hunter games is actually rather mediocre for several years now. What happened to any future Resident Evil or Street Fighter games? Megaman in Smash maybe we could have a Megaman ga -- oh ok, no.

Nintendo fans should be leery of thinking these companies are magically going to treat the Switch like a special snowflake and put huge resources into a system that has a fraction of the userbase as their PS4/XB1/PC projects do.

It also could lead to an unfair 2 way street where PS4/XB1 get ports of Switch games, since that will be easy to do, but Switch misses a lot of PS4/XB1 because that will be harder to accomodate. Resident Evil Revelations ended up on PS3/360 ... but Resident Evil Revelations 2 .... no 3DS or Wii U. 

Nothing unfair about it, this is business, this kind of thinking is childish. Why not put a game on a system that is more popular to garner more sales? it would be foolish not to do it.



Soundwave said:

Problem with this line of thinking is with the budgets of games today, are companies really going to put huge efforts into Switch games?

PS4/XB1 will be at around 80 million combined by year end, and 85 million-ish by the time the Switch even sells 1 unit.

Also Capcom's support for the 3DS outside of Monster Hunter games is actually rather mediocre for several years now. What happened to any future Resident Evil or Street Fighter games? Megaman in Smash maybe we could have a Megaman ga -- oh ok, no.

Nintendo fans should be leery of thinking these companies are magically going to treat the Switch like a special snowflake and put huge resources into a system that has a fraction of the userbase as their PS4/XB1/PC projects do.

It also could lead to an unfair 2 way street where PS4/XB1 get ports of Switch games, since that will be easy to do, but Switch misses a lot of PS4/XB1 because that will be harder to accomodate. Resident Evil Revelations ended up on PS3/360 ... but Resident Evil Revelations 2 .... no 3DS or Wii U. 

All of this is fine. Swicth doesn't need to support a lot of huge budget games third party games. Look at the indie scene, look at games like Yoka Laylee being made with only 2m. Equally these games can eventually find their way to Xbox One/PS4, that too is fine. Games being made for the Switch and ported to others systems aren't going represent a huge difference in performance whilst having the portability edge on Switch. This is still of benefit to Nintendo. The logic is most developers will port games where it makes sense and develop unique games where that makes sense. The Switch is fully portable so there are many experiences which will make sense of it but struggle to find an audience on PS4/X1.

Beyond that, Switch will not be the second coming of the PS2. It doesn't need to tick every single criteria and sell 150m. It needs to find a sizable audience (should be possible through portability alone) and create a healthy software echo-system amongst them. We need to look at where Nintendo is realitically think of where they can go and not for a second do I see Switch replacing PS4/X1 in the west. 



Wildcard36qs said:
bunchanumbers said:

Bland and uninspired is exactly what core gamers want. They don't care about how unique it is. They want their Maddens, CoDs, and FIFAs on a regular controller. They also don't want compromises in order to make the game work on the system, and that is what we're most likely to see. 3rd party will be making all sorts of sacrifices in order to make a game fly on Switch. Eventually they will have to pretty much break their games to do it, and it will be too much effort.

I'm thinking that by the end of next year we'll hear next to nothing from 3rd party devs when all their big AAA franchises can't work on Switch.

I am unfortunately thinking this as well. The only thing we can hope for is it to be adopted like the Wii forcing developers to take notice.

Even then, most of the games was shovelware that was quickly forgotten. If this is the future of Switch, then it will not be pretty. Once the gimmick of 'hey its on the go!' wears off they will see they got a 720p Nintendo branded tablet with gimped 3rd party games. By 2018 it will be like Wii U. Nintendo and Nindies alone on the machine.



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I expect them to hand out more Umbrella's for their Chronicle of games.



This probably means no Resident Evil 7 or RE2 Remake for Switch.



Soundwave said:
This probably means no Resident Evil 7 or RE2 Remake for Switch.

Knowing Capcom that is probably true. RE is actually quite popular on Nintendo systems, but Capcom doesnt want that money for some reason.



JEMC said:

But the thing is that they aren't talking about porting, he's saying that they won't make ports but "something different".

Look, Capcom isn't in very good position right now when it comes to money (or games, to be honest. They only hae 3 successful franchises and with SF V they've killed one of them for awhile). If they could port their existing games to the Switch for less than making that "something different", you can bet your ass that that's exactly what they would do.

"Tsujimoto stated that multiplatform development will be possible for the new Nintendo console"

They said its possible but they wanted to do something different. I inferred from this statement.



Maybe Super Street Fighter IV for Switch ... lol. I'd buy it. Or even Street Fighter 2 HD.