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KBG29 said:
binary solo said:
Will this be the peak Black Friday for 8th gen console sales? There's a chance Scorpio will cause Xb one to peak on BF 2017, but if it's a premium console at a premium price then it would have to be huge sales for Scorpio to bring a new high in BF sales for Xb one, and if PS4 starts it's decline next year and Switch being in full swing (and Wii U and 3DS being dead) it almost certainly still means that 8th gen as a whole has peaked this year. Unless people are going to cheat and call Switch an 8th gen machine, which I guess depends on how you define a generation.

I don't think so. Next year will have sub $200 deals on PS4 Slim and XBOS. Plus the Pro will be $300, and as you said, the Scorpio will be available as well. I don't know where to put the switch, but I think it is better to look at the overall market regardless of generations. If you look at it that way, I think next holiday will be amoung the best in the history of the industry.

In addition, next year will have a ton of push from VR being widly available, and the experiences spreading. Next year their will be a whole years worth the VR Games, Interactive Experiences, and Creative/Productive Software. Sony will be pushing PSVR very hard, and Micorosft will be touting VR with the release of the Scorpio. 

Finally, non gaming and non entertainment will really start to blossom on PS4 and XBO next year as Sony and Micorsoft continue to reach for larger and larger markets. Universal Windows Applications will really start to take off, and this will force Sony to offer similar abilities. PlayStation Vue will continue to expand it's offerings, and it will be joined by Hulu, Youtube, and Direct TV Now. By the end of next year, the breadth of content and ease of use will outstrip every other device on the market by a long shot. So, I fully expect next year to sell more than this year, but I also think we are many years away from consoles hitting their peak sales. The XBO and PS4 Family of platforms will continue to sell better and better for a long time to come.

Well that's a very optimistic view of things.

Personally I doubt VR is going to amount to much until the head gear is significantly better and less intrusive (and ugly). I understand Vive is looking to release a wireless pack, which will help a lot. But there remain considerable barriers to entry for most people, even with PSVR being comparatively very cheap.

MS does seem to be pitching Scorpio at a market segment willing to pay a higher price, so even though it is VR ready, the relatively high price for Scorpio and the high price for Oculus seems like it's not going to do much for VR or be the go to VR combination. And the relatively higher price for Scorpio probably means Scorpio's imact on holiday sales will be modest.

If Nintendo markets Switch as a home console, I think it will start out disappointingly. If it is marketed as a handheld, which also plugs in to your TV then it has good sales potential. The main risk of producing one product to satisfy 2 markets is that you may end up disappointing both and end up with lower over all sales. As a home console it would be hard to do worse in sales than Wii U. But as it is a replacement for Wii U and 3DS, it's really 3DS sales that is the lower end of the benchmark, and arguably 3DS+Wii U sales that should be the minimum target. I like the concept of Switch, but it's unknown territory, so cautious optimisim is called for IMO.

I don't know if PS4Pro fropping to that $299 level is necessarily going to have the impact that consoles dropping into that price zone normally have. Since you can already get a PS4 for less than that and the cheaper PS4 does all the exact same things as the PS4Pro, only at a lower resolution. But still for the most part and for anyone without a 4K TV the experience will be close enough. 



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PS4 finally showing some fight! But does it have enough to fend off the Xbox One's advances and claim this NPD? Find out next time on dragon ball z!!



GribbleGrunger said:

5 hours since last update:

HARDWARE
#01 PS4s UC4 Bundle (up 1)
#03 PS4 Pro (up 1)
#07 XB1s-500gb Minecraft Bundle (up 4)
#10 XB1s-500gb Battlefield Bundle (up 16)
#13 XB1s-1tb Battflield Bundle (up 2)
#30 N3DSXL Lime (down 2)
#50 N3DSXL Black (down 20)
#58 PSVR Headset (up 9)
#91 XB1s-1tb Gears Bundle (down 10)
#96 N3DSXL Red (down 32)

SOFTWARE (pre-orders only)

Nothing at the moment


PS4:
2 in the top 100 / 2 in the top 50 / 2 in the top 20 / 2 in the top 10 / 2 in the top 5
XB1:
4 in the top 100 / 3 in the top 50 / 2 in the top 20 / 2 in the top 10 / 0 in the top 5

Great.



UltimateGamer1982 said:
PS4 finally showing some fight! But does it have enough to fend off the Xbox One's advances and claim this NPD? Find out next time on dragon ball z!!

Now this I'll laugh at. Have played xenoverse 2 (or 1 for that matter)? I've never felt so immersed in the dbz universe 

 

On topic anybody got updates on bestsellers list for the other retailers? I lost the post with all the links



lol not even minecraft can beat pro.



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Pro sold out.

It put up a good fight but couldn't take the top spot from thr PS4 slim... although we can at least acknowledge its impressive ascension.



Both systems doing verry good.

Going to be close Dec



 

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Angelv577 said:
A ps4 slim at 212? I wish I could have waited this long to grab one.

Looking at it right now and can barely believe it.... its understandable its #1 still.

The PS4pro sold out at 339$ lol.



Wow the Pro is sold out. In thr UK too. And in Japan but it's been sold out ages there.

I guess they'll only sell what they produce this year. They under estimated the thirst for the Pro!

Slim not sold out though and it's still beasting at #1!



xl-klaudkil said:
Both systems doing verry good.

Going to be close Dec

If they both stay at 212$.... sales will be huge this holidays.

Yep dec might be pretty close.