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Switch is Unlike the Vita & Much better

Re-Launch the Vita 31 17.22%
 
Let the Vita die already 126 70.00%
 
Vita vs Switch Holiday 2017 battle 23 12.78%
 
Total:180

Switch wins this pretty easily.

Sony didn't even really try with the Vita, leaving a bunch of smaller Japanese devs to carry it.

Switch will have more Nintendo support than even the DS or SNES did, on top of probably all the Japanese devs on Vita, plus Monster Hunter, plus some console ports.

Vita was cool for what it was, but Switch is simply better. It will have a higher resolution screen and far better graphics, with the option of playing on the TV without needing to buy a separate Playstation TV.



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Viktor said:
outlawauron said:

Really don't think you can say that remote play was very clunky considering how well it worked.

As far as PS4 comparison, I'd be shocked that a console would be able to outsell a handheld. That would be absolutely disasterious for Switch if it wasn't able to push past PS4.

PS4 is outselling PSV quite handily in 2016 hardware sales In Japan. PS4 looks like to be heading towards selling 2 times the ytd amount of PSV by the end of this year. Currently sales are at PSV 650k against 1.100k for PS4 this year. There´s nothing too shocking about it anymore since it´s happening in front of our eyes. About Switch, there just aren´t many informations about it besides, its concept, so it´s really hard to make strong predictions, besides the obvious thing that it will become the best selling system in 2017 in Japan, despite an atleast 2-3 months headstart nex year for its currently known competitors.

Why does that matter at all. I don't care what Vita does this year vs PS4. What are the lifetime sales of both devices? Really, you should compare 3DS/Vita vs PS4/X1/Wii U to actually compare what I said.



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Zoombael said:
V-r0cK said:

Wow I didn't know about the TurboExpress and that it was the first hybrid.  I always thought it was the Nomad.  I learn something new everyday, thanks!

And it seems to be... false. Couldn't find anything remotely supporting this claim. TurboExpress had a TV Tuner, like the GameGear.

It was a handheld that played home console games identically. There weren't specific Turbo Express games.

 

However, you could argue that the game gear did this first with the Master Gear.

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MikeRox said:
Zoombael said:

And it seems to be... false. Couldn't find anything remotely supporting this claim. TurboExpress had a TV Tuner, like the GameGear.

It was a handheld that played home console games identically. There weren't specific Turbo Express games.

 

However, you could argue that the game gear did this first with the Master Gear.

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Ok. Still... that doesn't make it a stationary/handheld console "hybrid". It's a pure handheld console.



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Being a separate platform ultimately hurt the PSV.

While it legitimately works as a satellite portable for the PS4, it's not 100% compatible mainly due to the control layout (two additional shoulder buttons plus two extra analog stick buttons) even though the back touch panel should have been able to mitigate the lack of physical additional buttons.

It's a bit pointless to compare the Switch with the Vita due to the passage of time.

As advanced as the Vita was for its time, SoC tech has grown at a far greater rate than traditional CPU/GPU hardware set ups, meaning the Switch sees the benefits of the accelerated jump in portable based tech. By comparison, the Vita was more portable PS2 than portable PS3.

The Vita was designed as a portable unit; SCE released a TV unit that was effectively the home based dongle in the effort to expand the user base for Vita games, but unsuccessfully.

The Switch was designed from the get go as a two in one solution that looks pretty elegantly executed even at the cost of being more like a tablet than a gaming PC. It's the Nvidia Shield to the Nvidia based gaming PC. Now Nintendo won't be splitting development resources across two separate platforms unlike the Vita, which was ultimately shortchanged due to never having hit critical mass with 3rd party developers.



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Kresnik said:

Vita games which have outsold their PS4 counterparts this year:

Next up - World of Final Fantasy & Sword Art Online.

 

Looks like both, Sword Art Online and World of Final Fantasy sold worse on PSV according to Media Create. Surprise...



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Viktor said:

Looks like both, Sword Art Online and World of Final Fantasy sold worse on PSV according to Media Create. Surprise...

And sold better on Famitsu (well, SAO), so I guess we'll have to call this one a tie :P (especially since we haven't seen anything about legs yet, which is traditionally won by Vita).

I am coming round to the idea that Vita software is in worse shape than I thought though, so you can have that victory!



Zoombael said:
MikeRox said:

It was a handheld that played home console games identically. There weren't specific Turbo Express games.

 

However, you could argue that the game gear did this first with the Master Gear.

[IMG]https://www.estarland.com/images/products/53/14453/78272.jpg[/IMG]

Ok. Still... that doesn't make it a stationary/handheld console "hybrid". It's a pure handheld console.

It is, but wasn't that also the case with the Sega Nomad?



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MikeRox said:
Zoombael said:

Ok. Still... that doesn't make it a stationary/handheld console "hybrid". It's a pure handheld console.

It is, but wasn't that also the case with the Sega Nomad?

All the technical specs on the Switch haven't been released so much of what people are stating in discussions is more speculation than fact. 

The Nomad was a portable Genesis with its own LCD screen. Not a hybrid in that it wasn't designed to be normally plugged into an external TV. Same concept as the NEC PC Engine GT/Turbographics Express that preceded it. 

Supposedly (and file this into unconfirmed speculation), the Switch has two separate power modes depending upon whether it's plugged into the dock with the LCD panel deactivated and the AV signal going to the HDTV or running off of internal battery. 

Internal battery/portable mode runs at 720p (native resolution of the display; no need to render any higher), likely at reduced clock speeds/reduced power in the interest of extending battery life.

Docked mode based off of AC power, does not require reduced power operating mode, deactivates the LCD panel and should (speculation) be able to render games at higher than 720p resolutions, depending upon the game and overhead requirements.

Assuming there is some sort of active cooling in the main unit (a lap top style fan), the fan would be running at higher RPM during docked mode than when in portable mode or maybe not at all in portable mode due to the reduced clock speeds.