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Machiavellian said:

DId you not read what I wrote.  The house voted for the ACA without the funding for abortion.  The senate voted for their revised version of the ACA which had the funding for abortion.  The only thing that was changed within the house version and the senate version was the funding of abortion.  Everything else is the same which was something lead by republicans not democrates.  You need to look at the whole story for the ACA not just the revised version.

For clarity, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act which is the post you provided is the Senate revised version.  Here is the House version and what was brought up by Republicans and signed by Republicans. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordable_Health_Care_for_America_Act 

You're as disingenous as you get for claiming that ACA was mainly lead by the Republicans ... 

And if you think funding for abortion means dick then I've got something to tell you. Only ONE republican in the house even voted for the original ACA bill before the senate reformed it. 

I agree with mrstickball that passing it as the republicans fault is insane in both cases no matter what you argue ... 

Not only are you blind about the opposing view but your ignorant about legislative history too ... (This is the same type of ignorance that Trump supporters exhibit when calling the elections rigged.) 



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fatslob-:O said:
Machiavellian said:

DId you not read what I wrote.  The house voted for the ACA without the funding for abortion.  The senate voted for their revised version of the ACA which had the funding for abortion.  The only thing that was changed within the house version and the senate version was the funding of abortion.  Everything else is the same which was something lead by republicans not democrates.  You need to look at the whole story for the ACA not just the revised version.

For clarity, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act which is the post you provided is the Senate revised version.  Here is the House version and what was brought up by Republicans and signed by Republicans. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordable_Health_Care_for_America_Act 

You're as disingenous as you get for claiming that ACA was mainly lead by the Republicans ... 

And if you think funding for abortion means dick then I've got something to tell you. Only ONE republican in the house even voted for the original ACA bill before the senate reformed it. 

I agree with mrstickball that passing it as the republicans fault is insane in both cases no matter what you argue ... 

Not only are you blind about the opposing view but your ignorant about legislative history too ... (This is the same type of ignorance that Trump supporters exhibit when calling the elections rigged.) 

The one Republican that did vote for that version of it in the House subsequentally lost his seat and political future. I kinda felt bad for Cao, but his election wouldn't have happened in normal circumstances anyway.



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the-pi-guy said:
LadyJasmine said:
Obamacare is a success in the short term but a failure in the long term.

What it needs to be a success in the long term is bringing in more healthy people to get healthcare.  

If you don't have healthcare and you're healthy, a lot of people would rather just pay the smaller fine than get any sort of healthcare.  

What it needs to be a success is to benefit all people.



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