Which, ironically, considering the conversation above, was ME!

It's totally different situation when you use footage of gameplay of another console of game that actually coming to your platform, and to show 3rd party game running on your system that actually doesn't coming at all to your system. It doesn't make sense at all.

Lol, using Skyrim on Switch to try to force Bethesda to make the games!? Bethesda would sued them and take millions of dollars from them.

Fact that almost none of partners from list did not confirmed or announced some specific game for Switch proves that isn't only about Bethesda and 2k, Nintendo even did not confirmed own games from Switch trailer (expect Zelda). Nintendo did not dropped ball, this trailer wasnt about games, focus was just on concept, games are just used to show that concept but offcourse they will use games that will come on platform, not just some random games, and they will talk about games another time, like Nintendo said:

"This video is all about explaining how the Nintendo Switch work. At a later date, before the March launch, we'll be talking about things like exact launch date, and of course, the games."

If you are platform holder and 3rd party say they are partner for your platform and they will suport your platform, you relly dont have nothing vague about that.

“We’re happy to have had the opportunity to collaborate with Nintendo on the video. While we are not confirming any specific titles at this time, we are pleased to announce our partnership with Nintendo and support of the Switch. We look forward to revealing specific games and details in the future.” - Bethesda representative

There is nothing vague about this statement.

I don't get the backlash or confusion. The trailer made sense to me. I saw the console, I saw how it worked and the footage showed were meant to show what the console itself called do, be played at home or on the road. My sibling, who games a little less than I do, watched it and understands it. It's a teaser, a preview, a small trailer. What more do you want besides confirmed games? They'll talk about it at a later date.

All the hoopla about the Skyrim footage is odd to me. Bethesda signed off as their trademark is at the end of the trailer and they've confirmed to be working with Nintendo on Switch. Whether that will be related to Skyrim remastered or something, we'all find out.

It's just the usual "these images are not indicative of the final product" PR talk. It's obvious we are getting a new 3D Mario title, whether the brief footage we see represents an actual in-game level or not. They wouldn't have Bethesda do a Skyrim mockup if they weren't planning on releasing a version on the Switch. Same thing for NBA 2K17. Splatoon and MK are obviously just enhanced or remastered from the Wii U versions. And we've obviously seen Zelda in action already so we know what we're getting there,

And that's a lie, I barely go to any Sony thread and I haven't said a single bad thing about a sony game or console in ages, check your facts.

Opinions are never objective things.

Tell me, can you objectively say with 100% certainty at this point that Skyrim HD Remastered is coming to the Nintendo Switch? I"m not saying likely, I'm not saying "well I don't think Nintendo would do that". I'm saying can you say that you know for a fact that that Skyrim HD Remastered is coming to the Nintendo Switch.

No you cannot.

But there are thousands, if not millions of people out there that think that it is because of this reveal. there are thousands, if not millions of people out there that think that think the Nintendo Switch is powerful enough to play games as technologically demanding as Skyrim HD Remastered. Those people will justifiably feel betrayed and misled if it turns out that this game actually is not coming to the Nintendo Switch.

You might sweep that under the rug, and pass it of as a non-issue. But there are plenty here who would wholeheartedly disagree.

Sorry, I was just quick replying to OP and hadn't read posts yet.

But we had some threads of people saying Nintendo wouldn't ever show what wasn't already commited to launch on Switch and that graphics would be better in the next flow of games because those were only ports from WiiU.

So they are 6 months from launch and doesn't have a single show piece of a game even after 18 months of leaks? Well we can certainly compare that to PS4 and X1 reveal. And now we truly now why nintendo won't talk more about the system until 2017 and why they decided to launch this teaser close to Pro launch.

Well technically you can play Mario games on your XB1 by hooking up your Wii U to it via HDMI passthrough, soooooo... it wouldn't be entirely inaccurate if M$ said a new Mario was coming to the X1 and showed "footage" of it on X1 lol.

Ah boy...

I spent the whole Skyrim advert thread saying 'this isn't on Nintendo' and went to great length to explain why I thought, logically, it wasn't on them. In this thread I get accused of having an agenda because I've conceded this is turning into a cock up. What can you say ... ?