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think-man said:
10 minute battery life?

Get over yourself...

4 minute tops.



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Those saying Skyrim is a 5 year old game...if Switch gets Skyrim it will be the remaster with vastly improved visuals that consoles 5 years ago could not achieve. This speaks volumes for the power if that is what it is IF it comes to NS.

The fact that people ignore this fact shows just how much some people are trying to downplay the NS. It is kinda sad really.



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onionberry said:
Zkuq said:
That only rules out games currently in development. Skyrim is an old game and should be easily able to run on Switch, and new games can be designed to run on Switch if their production hasn't started yet (at least properly). That said, whether any future games are coming to Switch from Bethesda probably depends a lot on how other third-parties do, and if/when Skyrim is released on Switch, how well it does.

Anyway, I wouldn't expect huge Switch support from Bethesda.

you say this, but skyrim (the old version) runs like shit on the ps3, and this is a remaster with a new engine, not just an old game from 2011.

If it runs on PS3, it runs on Switch as well for sure. If Bethesda wants Skyrim on Switch, they'll do the best they can and not try to force the new version on it for sure. The Switch version, assuming it's coming, will almost certainly be somewhere between the original and the new version instead of being one or the other.



So, they didnt know anything about Switch by august?



Soundwave said:

Skyrim is a 5 year old game though. Perhaps Nintendo actually did something a normal company would do and actually went to Bethesda and got them to agree to at least a Skyrim port or at least a demo for the reveal video.

I don't think Switch is close to an XBox One though.

That Mario Switch game didn't look even close to a standard XBox One/PS4 game, it looked very marginally better than Super Mario 3D World.

People have to be careful when reading things like this, because quotes are taken out of context, for example he never says Switch/NS must be as powerful as an XB1/PS4 for them to make games. Read his actual quote not what the writer of the article is adding on top of that. His actual quote is basically they'd consider putting a game on NS if it made sense and if it was technically feasible. 

That doesn't mean it's equal to XB1/PS4, that means a game like Skyrim HD, which is an upgraded port of a PS3/360 game fit that criteria. We don't know what it means for actual "from the ground up" XB1/PS4 games. 

How many times i have to write this??... again, Skyrim Especial edition is a graphical demanding game, with all the DLC and all the new graphics techniques of this generation, now, it was a game port on ps3  and x360 but it barely runs on that machines, if was a game for PC with ports relly bad ports for ps3 and x360, now this new game barely runs on xbone, did you have a PC soundwave? well if you have it you will know this and the  old skyrim are very different from a technical stand point.



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We can even look at the Nvidia Shield console which has the Tegra X1 processor.

When running games it can go as high as 20 watts, even with a monster battery, lets use the iPad Pro (the giant iPad with a 12-inch display) that has a 38.8 wH battery which takes up most of the space of the inside.

At 20 watts, that battery would only be able to power that Tegra X1 at full tilt for not even 2 hours. It would die somewhere around 1 hour 50 minutes.

And a Tegra X1 is nowhere near an XBox One in raw performance.



Arkaign said:
Ugh.

There are realities with die size, architecture, process node, power consumption/heat dissipation, memory bandwidth, and bus/PCB fundamentals that are basically inescapable.

At 14nm, regardless of Tegra revision, and 20W being a pipe dream (more likely 8-12W, otherwise heat would be obscene, and the battery would die rapidly), this thing will come out about 1/3rd to 1/2 of Xbox One performance with some significant drawbacks such as memory bandwidth.

What does this mean? On the tablet's 720P display, you SHOULD be able to run ports of X1/PS4 titles at 540P for demanding titles, and 720P for less demanding titles, upscaling when necessary. Because of low memory size, textures will probably take a hit as well should they try to do major multiplats.

This will be MORE than fine for a handheld. Undoubtedly the best-looking handheld gaming ever made. However, if a game like BF1 is ~50GB, how does that fit on their carts? If there is a 20GB DLC, will that be feasible?

And more importantly, with specs like these, AAA multiplats will look terrible on a big screen. 540P upscaled to 1080p? Ugh.

Nintendo 1st party games like Zelda/Kart/Mario? Well yeah, those will look fine, somewhere around WiiU power or close to it is enough for those games.

Remember, the dock can supply more than 12W and the platform does seem to have heat vents (implying active cooling.) 540p - 720p on the go, and 720p-1080p on the big screen could be a possibility.

As for carts, 64 GB (non-rewritable) carts exist.



I suspect NS will operate around XBOne levels when docked, and drop to lower levels when running off the battery.



well let's hope it indeed does that



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Soundwave said:

Skyrim is a 5 year old game though. Perhaps Nintendo actually did something a normal company would do and actually went to Bethesda and got them to agree to at least a Skyrim port or at least a demo for the reveal video.

I don't think Switch is close to an XBox One though.

That Mario Switch game didn't look even close to a standard XBox One/PS4 game, it looked very marginally better than Super Mario 3D World.

People have to be careful when reading things like this, because quotes are taken out of context, for example he never says Switch/NS must be as powerful as an XB1/PS4 for them to make games. Read his actual quote not what the writer of the article is adding on top of that. His actual quote is basically they'd consider putting a game on NS if it made sense and if it was technically feasible. 

That doesn't mean it's equal to XB1/PS4, that means a game like Skyrim HD, which is an upgraded port of a PS3/360 game fit that criteria. We don't know what it means for actual "from the ground up" XB1/PS4 games. 

I disagree with that. I think it looked noticiably better than 3D World. Take a look (I know, off screen, low res, etc. but it gives you a good idea, plus even if you zoom in a lot you can notice bullet bill's and mario's models look much better than on 3D World for example):



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