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HollyGamer said:
Well , i hope it will be a success so we can have PSP 2 or Vita 2 with similar concept, in near future and with better graphic then Switch XD

Switch is cutting edge for a portable, it basically is what a Vita 2 would be, Sony doesn't have some magical tech (the Vita was basically just the same chip from the third iPad for instance, it's not a Sony chip). A Pascal based Nvidia Tegra which Nintendo is using is about as good as you're going to get. 

For the health of the industry I think it's better that Sony and MS just stay out. The portable sector is fragile enough as is due to the impact of mobile gaming, it's better just to have one healthy platform, there isn't room for multiple versions of this device without fracturing and flooding the market IMO. 



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How did they respond to Wii? Kinect and Move.

Reports exist showing Sony is going to do more mobile gaming now that Nintendo had success with Pokemon Go.

They will absolutely copy if NS starts to dominate. If NS does well but doesn't dominate, they won't do anything similar. Frankly, this is not a bad thing either. Companies should emulate what is obviously good so long as they are not forgetting to innovate as well.



You're putting the cart before the horse.



 

The PS5 Exists. 


superchunk said:
How did they respond to Wii? Kinect and Move.

Reports exist showing Sony is going to do more mobile gaming now that Nintendo had success with Pokemon Go.

They will absolutely copy if NS starts to dominate. If NS does well but doesn't dominate, they won't do anything similar. Frankly, this is not a bad thing either. Companies should emulate what is obviously good so long as they are not forgetting to innovate as well.

I think Sony is kinda fine with the "equlibrium" of the market as it were. Switch is not a competitor for the Playstation and I think Sony is fine with Nintendo staying on that side of the playground while they get their side of the playground. 



Soundwave said:

I think Sony is kinda fine with the "equlibrium" of the market as it were. Switch is not a competitor for the Playstation and I think Sony is fine with Nintendo staying on that side of the playground while they get their side of the playground. 

We're already at that bullet point where Nintendo is not directly competing with MSony? I have gone back and forth on that concept with both Wii and WiiU and in the end, I think you have to consider them as direct competitors still. They are all fundamentally game consoles and there are folks who will not own more than one. Granted, I think that segment is getting to be less and less over time but if NS has all the same 3rd party games and of course its own truly exclusive Nintendo IPs, there will be a larger number of people who wont' consider it a second console, but their sole console.

Jan/Feb 2017 will be interesting to see how 3rd parties support NS and that will define if they should be considered direct competitors or not. I'm betting Sony always considers Nitnendo a direct competitor (in gaming) regardless.



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superchunk said:
Soundwave said:

I think Sony is kinda fine with the "equlibrium" of the market as it were. Switch is not a competitor for the Playstation and I think Sony is fine with Nintendo staying on that side of the playground while they get their side of the playground. 

We're already at that bullet point where Nintendo is not directly competing with MSony? I have gone back and forth on that concept with both Wii and WiiU and in the end, I think you have to consider them as direct competitors still. They are all fundamentally game consoles and there are folks who will not own more than one. Granted, I think that segment is getting to be less and less over time but if NS has all the same 3rd party games and of course its own truly exclusive Nintendo IPs, there will be a larger number of people who wont' consider it a second console, but their sole console.

Jan/Feb 2017 will be interesting to see how 3rd parties support NS and that will define if they should be considered direct competitors or not. I'm betting Sony always considers Nitnendo a direct competitor (in gaming) regardless.

Switch I think is a fairly radical shift for even Nintendo moreso than even Wii and Wii U were in some ways. 

It's like for me saying 3DS is a direct competitor for the Playstation 4. I mean it's really not, and that's fine. 

I don't think to be quite honest Nintendo's heart was in the console business anyway ... did they ever like anything as far as where the console business was going? They complained about supporting TV resolutions (well consoles kinda need to play on a TV). They complained about consoles being too big. They complained about online play. They complained about console games having too big of budgets. They complained about graphics being too important. 

I think the console concept just turned into something Nintendo didn't like anymore. A portable machine that can output to a TV for *them* probably made a lot more sense than continuing with the old home console/seperate handheld lineage. It just wasn't working anymore for them. 

Sony/MS have their market, Switch will be a different market (largely 3DS owners I think). Sony is not worried about the Switch, in fact I think they want the Switch to do well, they want more kids coming into the dedicated gaming space, and Nitnendo is important to that, I think Sony has said as much. 

If Sony wanted to compete with Switch, they'd release a Vita 2, but I don't think that's happening. I think they got the "lets try to beat Nintendo at portables since we beat them at consoles" thing out of their system and Vita sobered them up. Now they're just going to focus on Playstation 4 and 5 and Playstation VR, which is basically like its own platform. 



Soundwave said:

Switch I think is a fairly radical shift for even Nintendo moreso than even Wii and Wii U were in some ways. 

It's like for me saying 3DS is a direct competitor for the Playstation 4. I mean it's really not, and that's fine. 

I don't think to be quite honest Nintendo's heart was in the console business anyway ... did they ever like anything as far as where the console business was going? They complained about supporting TV resolutions (well consoles kinda need to play on a TV). They complained about consoles being too big. They complained about online play. They complained about console games having too big of budgets. They complained about graphics being too important. 

I think the console concept just turned into something Nintendo didn't like anymore. A portable machine that can output to a TV for *them* probably made a lot more sense than continuing with the old home console/seperate handheld lineage. It just wasn't working anymore for them. 

Sony/MS have their market, Switch will be a different market (largely 3DS owners I think). Sony is not worried about the Switch, in fact I think they want the Switch to do well, they want more kids coming into the dedicated gaming space, and Nitnendo is important to that, I think Sony has said as much. 

If Sony wanted to compete with Switch, they'd release a Vita 2, but I don't think that's happening. I think they got the "lets try to beat Nintendo at portables since we beat them at consoles" thing out of their system and Vita sobered them up. Now they're just going to focus on Playstation 4 and 5 and Playstation VR, which is basically like its own platform. 

I think you have to state direct competitors not on percieved power (which is all that is different between Switch and PS4) but on content. This is why we need to wait to see what content will be on NS before we can consider them direct competitors or complements.



onionberry said:
Faelco said:
Well, Nintendo already copied a chinese tablet for the Switch, so why not?

always the Nintendo "didn't invent anything" comment has to pop up lol 

If we want to be honest, they invented the Wii, but tablets are not a new thing... 



AsGryffynn said:
onionberry said:

always the Nintendo "didn't invent anything" comment has to pop up lol 

If we want to be honest, they invented the Wii, but tablets are not a new thing... 

Nintendo is more about implementation than creation



superchunk said:
Soundwave said:

Switch I think is a fairly radical shift for even Nintendo moreso than even Wii and Wii U were in some ways. 

It's like for me saying 3DS is a direct competitor for the Playstation 4. I mean it's really not, and that's fine. 

I don't think to be quite honest Nintendo's heart was in the console business anyway ... did they ever like anything as far as where the console business was going? They complained about supporting TV resolutions (well consoles kinda need to play on a TV). They complained about consoles being too big. They complained about online play. They complained about console games having too big of budgets. They complained about graphics being too important. 

I think the console concept just turned into something Nintendo didn't like anymore. A portable machine that can output to a TV for *them* probably made a lot more sense than continuing with the old home console/seperate handheld lineage. It just wasn't working anymore for them. 

Sony/MS have their market, Switch will be a different market (largely 3DS owners I think). Sony is not worried about the Switch, in fact I think they want the Switch to do well, they want more kids coming into the dedicated gaming space, and Nitnendo is important to that, I think Sony has said as much. 

If Sony wanted to compete with Switch, they'd release a Vita 2, but I don't think that's happening. I think they got the "lets try to beat Nintendo at portables since we beat them at consoles" thing out of their system and Vita sobered them up. Now they're just going to focus on Playstation 4 and 5 and Playstation VR, which is basically like its own platform. 

I think you have to state direct competitors not on percieved power (which is all that is different between Switch and PS4) but on content. This is why we need to wait to see what content will be on NS before we can consider them direct competitors or complements.

Is the NS content that vague for you?

It's obviously not gonna most of AAA third party games that are on the PS4.

The NS will have all Nintendo studios pumping games its way.