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Forums - Gaming - So Nintendo officially quit console gaming. Switch is a handheld system

Well
In GB era we couldnt play SNES games like DKC, neither ps1 or N64 games.
In GBA, we couldnt play ps2, GC games
In DS we couldnt play mosnter hunter, smash bros, but we started playing 3D mario kart, something that we could play only in a home console.
In 3DS we can play smash bros, wii versions of DKCR, xenoblade chronicles. We can play almost any home console experience.
Seems that in switch we can play any kind of game a home console plays. So, there is no more difference between home console and handheld in the type of games they run.
So, the concepts are changing. Is a switch.



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They have left the traditional console market, that now is basically all going to be Sony/MS. This thing won't be competitive in that market sense, no one is going to seriously say "I was going to by a PS4 Pro, but I bought a Nintendo Switch at the last minute instead" or something.

It can output to a TV sure, but you could also by that metric say an iPad is a home console because you can play games on your TV through it too.

Nintendo is basically a portable game maker now, Switch will amalgamate the market for 3DS/Vita together (what's left of it) on the higher end, and 3DS will be kept around for a year or two as a low end option, but they basically now specialize in screen-based portable form factor devices, one of them just happens to be able to hook up to the TV, which is common for modern mobile electronics. Most smartphones and tablets can connect to a TV too if you really want to do that.



Mystro-Sama said:
Everyone is calling it a tablet when it doesn't even have a fucking touchscreen. lol

Is this confirmed or just a rumor?



                  

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Most of Switch's audience will come from the 3DS base. It's not going to be competitive with PS4/XB1, it just does not have the hardware power to compete there and certainly not with the PS4 Pro and Scorpio which absolutely demolish it in terms of processing power. 



Hiku said:
Well, as long as it's powerful enough to play console level games, they can market it as a console as well.

It's probably not going to play games like Red Dead 2, but that's not a foreign concept to previous Nintendo home consoles either.

And this is what I & a lot of Nintendo fans expected would change with the NX, a capable home console that could handle 3rd party games & would allow easy porting, instead Nintendo just futher steps away from  the home console scene... I am disapointed whatever angle I look at it & if I, a Nintendo enthusisast who liked N64, GameCube, Wii & Wii U can't find the Switch a convincing home solution, I can't believe people playing on PC, PS4 or X1 will find this attractive.

I understand that they are trying to go after the tablet market, but if that means giving Nintendo gamers tablet-like experiences, then I'm out! I don't own a tablet because that doesn't speak to me, if I wanted a tablet I would have bought an Ipad long ago to play those crappy tablet/phone games.

I'm not against Nintendo wanting to tap in that market since there is great revenue to make with the likes of Pokemon GO & Super Mario Run, but Nintendo has to keep on making the games & consoles that Nintendo gamers like & are used to play & try to reconquer the other platform gamers & 3rd party support, otherwise they will be left alone, with no one buying their products...



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Captain_Yuri said:
Mystro-Sama said:
Everyone is calling it a tablet when it doesn't even have a fucking touchscreen. lol

Is this confirmed or just a rumor?

Its heavily implied that it doesn't. No one in the trailer touched the screen and Nintendo refuses to confirm or deny it so it most likely doesn't.



Mystro-Sama said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Is this confirmed or just a rumor?

Its heavily implied that it doesn't. No one in the trailer touched the screen and Nintendo refuses to confirm or deny it so it most likely doesn't.

Well I hope it does cause I have no idea what Nintendo was thinking if it doesn't. Tablet without a touchscreen in 2016 is essentially unheard of; specially in 2017. If they are going after the tablet market and doesn't have basics like this, they goofed.



                  

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They are moonwalking out of dedicated console business. I think its good IMHO. Their portables have always been more consistent than the home consoles.

The dock isnt gonna to add any significant power if any at all, people need to come to reality. That is good as it will make the system cheaper. Its very odd that some people are still holding on to the hope that Ninty will make a console that will rival the competition, not after the success of Wii.

What i find interesting is that we havent seen or have confirmation that it will have local multiplayer. You'd think they show than instead of showing four people play seperate tablets....interesting and yes it SHOULD be obvious they would have it, but it wasnt that long ago where it was obvious that Wii U would support multiple gamepads...



Does it really matter what you label it as?



DonFerrari said:
teigaga said:

The PSP and PSV aren't designed around this philosophy. When is a streaming box a streaming box instead of a gaming console? Or a gaming console a console instead of a streaming box?

These semantics are not scientific, it's all just marketing and intended use. What is the definition of a home console?

My point is no one cares what title these boxes fit under, they care about function. The NS functions as a console and that's built into its control scheme and hardware choice. The thread "Nintendo "has quit console gaming" is based on the NS not having a Gpu in its dock. As if people care whether it's in the dock or in the tablet, the real discussion is one of power, but the Wii and Wii U were both weak so I'm saying the discussion is kind of pointless.

You may say they weren't designed around that, but still it launched with the functionality around. So intention defines what it is?

NS can function as a console as much as a PSTV can as well. so it isn't exacly new.

The thread is more about the dock having little use besides being a chargepod with tv connection, making it much more of a handheld hooked to a tv than a console that you may carry and play with or a hybrid.

RolStoppable said:

If Switch connects to the TV and then offers four player splitscreen games, then it's clearly not the same as plugging a Sony handheld or any other device into a TV or monitor. In that case Switch would truly change its functionality to the one of a home console and at that point you would be hard pressed to disregard it as a home console. Switch obviously also works as a handheld, but that's the point of a hybrid; it's both.

It isn't the same, but evolving a concept or idea isn't the same as making it a home console.

And besides nintendo saying it's a home console on their reveal they took almost all the time on the presentation showing it as a handheld and not as a home console, so their narrative doesn't fit.

"And besides nintendo saying it's a home console on their reveal they took almost all the time on the presentation showing it as a handheld and not as a home console, so their narrative doesn't fit."

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