Mr Puggsly said:
bunchanumbers said:
I don't know. Was Obama really that bad? In 2008, the economy was near collapse, banks going down, housing crisis. Hell I was laid off and there were tons more who also lost their jobs. Now employment is down, the economy is loads better, and health care is available for everyone.
I know people want to say that Obama was terrible and things are bad, but I see the results all around me all the time. People working, people earning money and people living better than they were 8 years ago.
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I don't credit Obama for making things better, it was inevitable regardless who was in office. The employment numbers are BS because they generally exclude people that given up on working.
Health care isn't availabe to everyone per se. A lot of people have access to it for free (often the poor), meanwhile a lot of working people simply can't afford it and are opting to pay the penalty instead (I think $700 this year). Insurance companies are leaving Obamacare, it has been a complete disaster for much of the country since day one.
One of my biggest personal issues with Obama is he gives the impression he's disappointed with the country opposed to boasting about our contributions to the world. He has also been incredibly devisive to the people in this country and the only movement he seems to attack is the Tea Party because its critical of him. He ran as a fiscal conservitive and even mocked Bush for his handling of the budget but did much worse. He's objectively an awful leader even if you can pick out a few things he did well. I understand people like him perhaps for social issues, but I don't think those people really looking at his record.
In a nutshell, I'll pass on more Obama if given the chance. So I basically have to give my vote to Trump. I don't think Trump is the ideal candidate, its just the left wing option is really bad even when I ignore she's a corrupt politician.
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The ACA provides coverage to about 90% of the people living in the United States. The remaining 10% of people living in America can't get coverage because
1. They aren't here legally and are therefor uneligible.
2. Fall into the "Medicad Gap" because their States opted out.
3. Decided it was either cheaper to just pay the fine, or didn't know they were supposed to have health insurance.
4. Were exempt from the requirement for one reason or another.
The ACA certainly hasn't been perfect, and has made it more difficult for a lot of people to get the same quality of health insurance as they had before the bill passed. But it's also done good things like making sure someone with a pre-existing condition can't be denied health insurance, and allowed about 16 million more people to get health insurance in the first place. Droping the rate of uninsured Americans from 17.6%, to 10.9%
Beyond that, Americans are pretty evenly split in their opinion of the ACA. Recent polling by Gallup suggests that 49% disaprove of the law, while 47% approve of the law. That, as Gallup points out, is within their margin of error.
Has the ACA been perfect? Of course not. Has it been as good as many of it's supporters had hoped it would be? No, not really. Has it been as bad as it's detractors said it would be? Not even close. Has it been a total disaster? No.
