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DonFerrari on 11 October 2016
LudicrousSpeed said:
You can click bait with a positive score, but it's not nearly as effective as a negative score. I used to write for a website where this tactic was commonly used. This was before Metacritic's time, but our scores were on GameRankings and affected the scores of many games.

Never personally partook in that, but was accused of it a couple times due to low scores.

The same way negative news sell more newspapers than positive, but that doesn't mean troll or clickbait can't be achieved through being positive.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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AsGryffynn on 12 October 2016
Bandorr said:
AsGryffynn said:

How can you bait with positives? 

That is entirely what commercials are. Is this an actual serious question?

Baiting is "to attract, tempt, or captivate.". That is all.

Infact that is all advertising is. Baiting you.

Giving a high score for no reason is as much "bait" as is giving a low score for no reason.

In those situations, there's usually a lead. There's none here... 

Three positive reviews do seem a bit too enthusiastic though, and one simply has little content, so I can say there might be four positive clickbait reviews... Whether you agree or not I don't mind... 

DonFerrari said:
AsGryffynn said:

How can you bait with positives? 

You can even say it can be trolling with positive aspects because you are being so positive that it's fake.

Yeah, but it's more along the lines of rigging the score or really liking something everyone hates. People hate BB and like OW but I swing the other way. Hardly seems fishy... Of course, if you see a site with the name of the console on its address, you can single reviews out for bias... 



hershel_layton on 12 October 2016
Bandorr said:
AsGryffynn said:

How can you bait with positives? 

That is entirely what commercials are. Is this an actual serious question?

Baiting is "to attract, tempt, or captivate.". That is all.

Infact that is all advertising is. Baiting you.

Giving a high score for no reason is as much "bait" as is giving a low score for no reason.

You won't believe the scores people gave for recore! #7 will shock you...

 

www.genericclickbaitwebsite.com/thisprobablyhasavirus/lol/enjoyathirtylongminutevideowhichtakesforevertogettothepoint/istoleyourinformation/kinkymarioandbowserporn



 

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d21lewis on 12 October 2016
hershel_layton said:
Bandorr said:

That is entirely what commercials are. Is this an actual serious question?

Baiting is "to attract, tempt, or captivate.". That is all.

Infact that is all advertising is. Baiting you.

Giving a high score for no reason is as much "bait" as is giving a low score for no reason.

You won't believe the scores people gave for recore! #7 will shock you...

 

www.genericclickbaitwebsite.com/thisprobablyhasavirus/lol/enjoyathirtylongminutevideowhichtakesforevertogettothepoint/istoleyourinformation/kinkymarioandbowserporn

I can't resist the bait!

*Clicks*



DonFerrari on 12 October 2016
AsGryffynn said:
Bandorr said:

That is entirely what commercials are. Is this an actual serious question?

Baiting is "to attract, tempt, or captivate.". That is all.

Infact that is all advertising is. Baiting you.

Giving a high score for no reason is as much "bait" as is giving a low score for no reason.

In those situations, there's usually a lead. There's none here... 

Three positive reviews do seem a bit too enthusiastic though, and one simply has little content, so I can say there might be four positive clickbait reviews... Whether you agree or not I don't mind... 

DonFerrari said:

You can even say it can be trolling with positive aspects because you are being so positive that it's fake.

Yeah, but it's more along the lines of rigging the score or really liking something everyone hates. People hate BB and like OW but I swing the other way. Hardly seems fishy... Of course, if you see a site with the name of the console on its address, you can single reviews out for bias... 

Sure, there are some very positive reviews that just refer to a difference in taste and that is ok (as I think is the same for low scores).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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AsGryffynn on 12 October 2016
DonFerrari said:
AsGryffynn said:

In those situations, there's usually a lead. There's none here... 

Three positive reviews do seem a bit too enthusiastic though, and one simply has little content, so I can say there might be four positive clickbait reviews... Whether you agree or not I don't mind... 

Yeah, but it's more along the lines of rigging the score or really liking something everyone hates. People hate BB and like OW but I swing the other way. Hardly seems fishy... Of course, if you see a site with the name of the console on its address, you can single reviews out for bias... 

Sure, there are some very positive reviews that just refer to a difference in taste and that is ok (as I think is the same for low scores).

Except this shows a distorted view of things. If you're not impartial to something, you lack the judgment to rate or criticize the issue... 



DonFerrari on 13 October 2016
AsGryffynn said:
DonFerrari said:

Sure, there are some very positive reviews that just refer to a difference in taste and that is ok (as I think is the same for low scores).

Except this shows a distorted view of things. If you're not impartial to something, you lack the judgment to rate or criticize the issue... 

There is no impartiality



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

AsGryffynn on 13 October 2016
DonFerrari said:
AsGryffynn said:

Except this shows a distorted view of things. If you're not impartial to something, you lack the judgment to rate or criticize the issue... 

There is no impartiality

There should be. Otherwise, we'd have to deal with a lot of serious issues... 



DonFerrari on 14 October 2016
AsGryffynn said:
DonFerrari said:

There is no impartiality

There should be. Otherwise, we'd have to deal with a lot of serious issues... 

Being a human being you have your opinion and opinions can't be impartial... What media have as being impartial or unbiased is allowing multiple different views to be presented and not positioning themselves, which is bullshit.

Much better to have an outlet to explicit say they are right/left liberal/interventionist than to pretend to be neutral but clearly being not. Same with videogames, it's better to know that an outlet favors or not a platform than to keep it hidden.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

AsGryffynn on 15 October 2016
DonFerrari said:
AsGryffynn said:

There should be. Otherwise, we'd have to deal with a lot of serious issues... 

Being a human being you have your opinion and opinions can't be impartial... What media have as being impartial or unbiased is allowing multiple different views to be presented and not positioning themselves, which is bullshit.

Much better to have an outlet to explicit say they are right/left liberal/interventionist than to pretend to be neutral but clearly being not. Same with videogames, it's better to know that an outlet favors or not a platform than to keep it hidden.

In other words, I have to allow leftists to criticize the right in a Republican rally?