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What match are you excited for at WWE Payback 2017?

Neville vs. Austin Aries ... 1 5.88%
 
Randy Orton vs. Bray Wyat... 3 17.65%
 
The Hardy Boyz vs. Cesaro... 3 17.65%
 
Kevin Owens vs. Chris Jer... 4 23.53%
 
Bayley vs. Alexa Bliss (Raw Women's Title) 3 17.65%
 
Seth Rollins vs. Samoa Joe 1 5.88%
 
Roman Reigns vs. Braun Strowman 2 11.76%
 
Total:17

I just finished watching SDL. From beginning to end, it was a wholly satisfying experience. The crowd was crazy into it. It was on par with a PPV audience. Man SDL is killing it. I don't even want to watch Raw anymore. The Luchadora/Bliss match was hilarious! I loved it. Listening to Charlotte try to cut a promo hurts my ears.



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bunchanumbers said:
I just finished watching SDL. From beginning to end, it was a wholly satisfying experience. The crowd was crazy into it. It was on par with a PPV audience. Man SDL is killing it. I don't even want to watch Raw anymore. The Luchadora/Bliss match was hilarious! I loved it. Listening to Charlotte try to cut a promo hurts my ears.

It's stupid how much better it is.

I'm only watching Raw PPV's until I hear it's gotten better. It's soooo long as well.



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lol I'm watching the WWE Network and they are doing a replay of the mania. Its insane how much the audience hates Reigns. I don't think I've ever seen a crowd legit hate a wrestler as much as this crowd hates Reigns.



BasilZero said:
bunchanumbers said:
lol I'm watching the WWE Network and they are doing a replay of the mania. Its insane how much the audience hates Reigns. I don't think I've ever seen a crowd legit hate a wrestler as much as this crowd hates Reigns.

 

Well its what happened to Cena few years back and when The Rock was being pushed at first before he turned heel.

 

Only thing that would fix Reigns imo would be to turn him into a heel and I dont mean a Silent killer heel (or someone who barely talks) like Lesnar - but I mean a loud, brash youngin like the rock was.

 

Though Reigns doesnt seem much of a talker.....

Reigns needs to turn heel and get a mouth piece.



If Reigns turns heel he really shouldn't do anything different. Let him continue being smarmy and cocky with his "THE GUY" character. He's already the most over heel on the roster even if he isn't booked that way. I'm pretty sure that he'd muck up any major changes to his persona. Instead, be subtle with it and have him throw in some digs at the "smarks" in the audience (which is really everyone).

I think keeping him roughly the same with only minor differences in presentation and booking would keep the boos coming.

The real problem is the shortage of over babyfaces at the main event level. Rollins is stuck in some kind of nowhere-land because they brought him back as a heel after his injury and now his turn makes no sense. He still seems like the same guy, just now he's teaming with Roman again. Then who else does RAW have? Balor is still on the shelf. They've kind of buried Zayn without giving him a real chance. Cesaro would be great in the main event slot but I don't think they want that.

They turn Roman now, it will be all on Seth.

They could bring Joe up as a face, though it would be kind of sudden. They put him against Roman, though, and he'll be cheered like crazy. Have Roman cut another typical "THE GUY" promo but have Joe come out and tell him he can shove his stupid little moniker up his ass. Better yet, Joe can tell him that he should get a name tag, put "THE GUY" on it, turn it side-way, and then shove it up his ass. The pop would be beautiful.



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Reigns has his place, and I don't hate him. but his place is as 'silent enforcer' for the shield. Get him off the mic, stop trying to push him as a face, and let him just be the badass we all know he CAN, but isn't allowed to be because creative wants him to be Cena 2.0.

I honestly really liked Reigns when he was in the shield. When that group broke up, he just hasn't been as good. Hell, the best he's been has been when he teams up with Seth and Ambrose to do the triple powerbomb or something.

It's baffling how oblivious vince is on this one.



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BasilZero said:
darkknightkryta said:

Reigns needs to turn heel and get a mouth piece.

 

A little too late for that :p

 

Besides he was a heel and had two mouth pieces when he was a part of the Shield :P

And that was the only time he was liked as a character



Guess you really need natural talent to talk. That or WWE hired some really bad acting teachers for him.



 

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BasilZero said:
SnakeDrake said:
Guess you really need natural talent to talk. That or WWE hired some really bad acting teachers for him.

 

The samoans from what I've seen really arent that much of a talkers.

 

The Rock was a unique person from that group.

 

I cant really think of anyone else from The Rock's family that were really talkers. Even Yokozuna had a mouthpiece.

 

The USOs werent really talkers either until they actually got the titles, they've improved though lol.

I haven't watched Samoa Joe since he left TNA but he was a pretty good talker there.



 

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BasilZero said:
SnakeDrake said:

I haven't watched Samoa Joe since he left TNA but he was a pretty good talker there.

 

Oh right, forgot about him xD.

 

But he isnt part of the Anoa'i family though ;(

Its OK he can start his own Samoan wrestling density.



 

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