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What match are you excited for at WWE Payback 2017?

Neville vs. Austin Aries ... 1 5.88%
 
Randy Orton vs. Bray Wyat... 3 17.65%
 
The Hardy Boyz vs. Cesaro... 3 17.65%
 
Kevin Owens vs. Chris Jer... 4 23.53%
 
Bayley vs. Alexa Bliss (Raw Women's Title) 3 17.65%
 
Seth Rollins vs. Samoa Joe 1 5.88%
 
Roman Reigns vs. Braun Strowman 2 11.76%
 
Total:17

Still working my way through AEW Double or Nothing:

Hookhausen vs Tony Neese and friend was fun. Danhausen is a goof and I love it; the fans love him, too. Hook is actually really fun to watch and the dichotomy of the two works well. This match was what it needed to be but it's clear Danhausen is still recovering from his knee injury. Either that or he's playing into it.

MJF vs Wardlow was exactly what it needed to be. I would have been okay with MJF getting some more offense in to really sell it but this was fun. I'm convinced this whole 'leaving AEW' thing is a work, though. Then again I said the same thing about Cody and look where that ended up.

HArdys vs Young Bucks was....great for like 75% of the match but concerning for the other 25% or so. Something clearly went wrong with both Jeff and Matt during that match but they powered through. I'm worried for them but the match was still pretty good. I hope whatever went wrong gets fixed soon or at least addressed.

Jade Cargill vs Anna Jay (I almost said Serena Deeb, because I am an idiot) was just boring. After the first couple minutes I skipped through the match. Honestly, I just don't find Jade Cargill to be engaging at all. She's attractive and I love strong women but I'm not convinced she's that great in the ring. Not yet. Loved seeing Athena/ember Moon though.

**Edit** To be clear I'm not objectifying anyone, I'm saying that I feel that Cargill's success is because she has a specific aura about her, it's not because of her skill. If that was the case, she'd be at the bottom of the women's roster right now as opposed to one of the two champions. 

That's as far as I got in the PPV. Only one dud match so far, and the best is yet to come, so I'll update as I go on.



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MJF delivered an interesting fourth wall breaking promo on Dynamite. Have to assume that it was somewhat planned even if they didn't know exactly what he was going to say. If they actually decided just to hand him an open mic at this juncture... well, I don't think they're that stupid.

Great promo, and real or not, they stumbled into the most interesting story in wrestling atm. Unfortunately, they kind of buried Wardlow in the process, cause MJF seems perfectly fine after 10 power bombs, and the whole thing is overshadowed by this.



Punk injured :(. Terrible timing. He came out looking like he was about to cry so I feared it was worse. Hopefully he'll be able to come back strong. In the mean time, get the belt on to Danielson. The window for them to have a true classic is closing if it's not closed already. Gather ye rosebuds while you can.

Speaking of coming back from injuries, Ember Moon, or Athena I guess, looked great. Her WWE look was much better, but she looked good in the ring.



Rhodes Rollins was legitimately hard to watch. I dunno if he should have done it, but that was a legendary performance by Cody. Pretty meh show otherwise. If he's healthy in time, Cody is the most obvious choice to take the belt from Reigns, which I really can't believe I just typed.



BasilZero said:
JWeinCom said:

Rhodes Rollins was legitimately hard to watch. I dunno if he should have done it, but that was a legendary performance by Cody. Pretty meh show otherwise. If he's healthy in time, Cody is the most obvious choice to take the belt from Reigns, which I really can't believe I just typed.

Would have been better if he was at MITB but its in July....a month from now.

The injury he has typically takes a couple of months to heal and at worst 4-5.

Way beyond MITB - unless they make him win the MITB contract from whoever wins it down the line or they could push him into winning the RR next year lol.

That is low chance due to the fact that WWE is planning to make Reigns VS Rock the main event next year's WM.

They could have him win the Rumble. Or, just give him a title match. He's over enough that people won't complain. 

If the Rock is the one to end Reigns' errrr... reign, I might just stop watching. I'm fine with them having a match along the way, but that would suck balls.



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Rock Vs Reigns doesn't need the belt to be a massive draw.

Should put it on cody when he comes back, see what happens and gives something for Reigns to go back to after the rock bout.



JWeinCom said:
BasilZero said:

Would have been better if he was at MITB but its in July....a month from now.

The injury he has typically takes a couple of months to heal and at worst 4-5.

Way beyond MITB - unless they make him win the MITB contract from whoever wins it down the line or they could push him into winning the RR next year lol.

That is low chance due to the fact that WWE is planning to make Reigns VS Rock the main event next year's WM.

They could have him win the Rumble. Or, just give him a title match. He's over enough that people won't complain. 

If the Rock is the one to end Reigns' errrr... reign, I might just stop watching. I'm fine with them having a match along the way, but that would suck balls.

Yup, the belt shouldn't go on a part timer tbh. They're just not there to defend it often enough... If at all in The Rocks case. He is always busy with something else.



ironmanDX said:
JWeinCom said:

They could have him win the Rumble. Or, just give him a title match. He's over enough that people won't complain. 

If the Rock is the one to end Reigns' errrr... reign, I might just stop watching. I'm fine with them having a match along the way, but that would suck balls.

Yup, the belt shouldn't go on a part timer tbh. They're just not there to defend it often enough... If at all in The Rocks case. He is always busy with something else.

It's less about that and more about the fact that Reigns has been so dominant that him losing is going to be a big moment. So it should be used to elevate someone else.



BasilZero said:

I cant believe they turned Edge into a face all because they lost Rhodes and dont have any other face (that they think cant main event).

What a waste of using AJ Styles.

I really didn't find the Judgment day stable that interesting. I think it's better with Finn at its head. He needed something anyway.

But, I don't get why this would make Edge a face, even though that seems to be the intention. If an asshole gets his ass kicked by his asshole friends, I don't know why I should think he's not an asshole. 

If they're smart, which history shows is a dubious proposition, they won't go for a straight face turn. Instead, they'll have Styles and Edge form a kind of uneasy alliance with Edge still somewhat on the heelish side.



JWeinCom said:
ironmanDX said:

Yup, the belt shouldn't go on a part timer tbh. They're just not there to defend it often enough... If at all in The Rocks case. He is always busy with something else.

It's less about that and more about the fact that Reigns has been so dominant that him losing is going to be a big moment. So it should be used to elevate someone else.

I'm so used to full time talent beng fed to part time talent so often I just assumed it was going to happen and didn't even consider that.