I hope they go with a $600 tag.
Add the 12 gb ram
no multiple bundles of storage just 2tb
Increase the gpu a bit more, 7-8tf
low end zen cpu

Basicly, I want them to start gen 9. It will sell slow yea, but when the ps5 comes like 2 to 3 years afterwards it will already have droped to like $400, while sony will probably also launch the ps5 at that price and will only be a litle more powerfull than this scorpio but the scorpio will have at least 2 years head start.

Thats the only way xbox can compete. Sacrifice gen 8 and head start gen 9. if this scorpio can do real 4k and 60fps i most titles, then I dont think what ever sony brings out next will matter much since most people wont be able to really tell the diference of a litle more upgrade.

That's why I said it.

Well, they're also the only two things set in stone.

I really can't see it being under $499, or over $599.

Yes.  We've seen multiple attempts to sell consoles for more than $399.  The XBox One is the best selling example, and it was not very well received at that price point.  I guess I could see $499 as reasonable, if it includes a large hdd and an elite controller, or maybe a decent sized hybrid drive.  But, I just can't imagine MS making the same mistake with pricing above $399 again.  

Current info points that the GPU in the PS4P is derived from the RX480. But these are consoles, so clock speeds and voltages are cut for power/heat efficiency. The PS4P will be doing upscaled/some native 4K at 30fps. If you look at some RX480 benchmarks, this sounds about right when you cosider console optimizations. It goes to say that the games remain at their graphial settings to PS4 but they get IQ improvement from the resolution bump (better AA, better draw distances, better shadows, better detail). Info points to 1080p60 when PS4P is hooked to a 1080 TV but we'll get super sampled resolutions instead(1440p?).

Scorpio will probably be RX490 based and will have Puma+ based CPU. Enough to do away with any form of upscaling but probably still not enough for native 4K60. If you ask me, this is a solid $499 (minimum) console.

Just remember that not always does headstarting a gen really helps out.

Thank god there are unsensible people, so we can have good laughs.

I wish people would stop this. The reasosn the x1 was not well received at that price was because the ps4 was chaper and more powerfull. This time the more powerfull console will be acordingly more expensive. Not the same thing

I know that. Wii u comes to mind. But if they deiced on a ps4p deive with only a bump in gpu of 40% to reach that $400 price match, then they better not even try. They need to have the hardware to be close to the ps5 in 3-4 years. wich it wil be like 9-10tflops, With 8tflops the diference wont be that large and they can just release another slim that would match in price by then at $400. pleaseenthusiast now at a premium of $600 then mass market when the ps5 launches at $400, with some slight improovements the slim will have.

I want that $999 bundle with the Rift.
Fuck those haters.

Dreamcast tried something like that and also failed.

Launching first, or being more powerfull won't help that much. Even more when it's considerably more expensive and all games it can play the older version can as well.

They are more at risk of PS5 devouring them than they to be prepared ahead of time.