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Kerotan said:
Mike_L said:

Bold: I agree. Hence the "Though I think that is and will be a general thing for every home console (that isn't also a handheld) in Japan from now on."

I think we're in the same boat. PS4 won't end anywhere near the top 4 selling home consoles in Japan due to handheld gaming being more popular than ever. But its lifetime sales may still end up being respectable when we consider this general Japanese decline of home console gaming.

Instead of "respectable" you (and naruball) used the word "impressive" and that's fine by me

Yeah we're definitely in the same boat. It's just I'm on the premium level and you're on the regular fare :P haha only messing Yeah I agree with what you say. 

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Kerotan said:
Miyamotoo said:

He called Japan PS4 sales impressive, there is nothing impressive about them at all regardless games, PS4 sales on West were great even without great and exclusive games. Only around Japan 3m from around WW 45m is bad, not impresive.

It's impressive that it's matching ps3 sales launch alligned.  2016 is tracking very well and it will end up coming close to ps3's best ever year of 1.8m. 

 

Next year and onwards will be good too.  The Wii U may be dead for a while but not for the last 15 months which is the headstart it had.  It also had an extra holiday.  Sales of ps4 are impressive and they will continue to be. 

You realise that PS3 had pretty bad first two years WW because very high launch price, so fact that PS4 sales matching PS3 in Japan actually isn't good, especially because PS4 is selling WW around 3x times better than PS3 in some time while only in Japan is only on pair with PS3.

Comparing sales one of the fastest selling console ever and sales of Nintendo worst selling console ever, and fact that PS4 need 2.5 years to pass Wii U numbers when in all other markets that was done in less than one year, telling us that are sales of PS4 in Japan are actually very unimpressive.

 

Mike_L said:
Miyamotoo said:

He called Japan PS4 sales impressive, there is nothing impressive about them at all regardless games, PS4 sales on West were great even without great and exclusive games. Only around Japan 3m from around WW 45m is bad, not impresive.

No. Ps4 sales haven't been impressive in Japan. I agree with you on that. Though I think that is and will be a general thing for every home console (that isn't also a handheld) in Japan from now on.

It's really telling that PS4 is the 2nd fastest selling home console ever worldwide and yet the "failed" Vita still has a 2 mill lead over it in Japan.

 

Still, PS4 sales may improve a bit as the bigger games finally start releasing.

Agree.



Miyamotoo said:
Kerotan said:

It's impressive that it's matching ps3 sales launch alligned.  2016 is tracking very well and it will end up coming close to ps3's best ever year of 1.8m. 

 

Next year and onwards will be good too.  The Wii U may be dead for a while but not for the last 15 months which is the headstart it had.  It also had an extra holiday.  Sales of ps4 are impressive and they will continue to be. 

You realise that PS3 had pretty bad first two years WW because very high launch price, so fact that PS4 sales matching PS3 in Japan actually isn't good, especially because PS4 is selling WW around 3x times better than PS3 in some time while only in Japan is only on pair with PS3.

Comparing sales one of the fastest selling console ever and sales of Nintendo worst selling console ever, and fact that PS4 need 2.5 years to pass Wii U numbers when in all other markets that was done in less than one year, telling us that are sales of PS4 in Japan are actually very unimpressive.

 

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You realise that ps4 had a terrible first 2 years in terms of software.  Very few Japanese games especially mid to big tier titles.  Almost all titles were also on vita or ps3 or on all 3. 

 

You do realise that the Wii U compared to other markets did much better in Japan?  The ps4 outsold the Wii U after one week in the UK.  To do that in Japan would have taken a launch of 1.6m!!! Hopefully now you see why it's pointless bringing up that point.  

 

The Wii U had 15 months extra on the market. 

 

You know what's impressive?  tracking ahead of your 10m+ predecessor in a market that is dying. It's the only one of the 3 consoles that didn't decline a lot on it's predecessor. A solid achievement. 



It was destined to happen as I'm certain many are awaiting to play 3D porn with their PS4.



Kerotan said:
Miyamotoo said:

You realise that PS3 had pretty bad first two years WW because very high launch price, so fact that PS4 sales matching PS3 in Japan actually isn't good, especially because PS4 is selling WW around 3x times better than PS3 in some time while only in Japan is only on pair with PS3.

Comparing sales one of the fastest selling console ever and sales of Nintendo worst selling console ever, and fact that PS4 need 2.5 years to pass Wii U numbers when in all other markets that was done in less than one year, telling us that are sales of PS4 in Japan are actually very unimpressive.

 

You realise that ps4 had a terrible first 2 years in terms of software.  Very few Japanese games especially mid to big tier titles.  Almost all titles were also on vita or ps3 or on all 3. 

 

You do realise that the Wii U compared to other markets did much better in Japan?  The ps4 outsold the Wii U after one week in the UK.  To do that in Japan would have taken a launch of 1.6m!!! Hopefully now you see why it's pointless bringing up that point.  

 

The Wii U had 15 months extra on the market. 

 

You know what's impressive?  tracking ahead of your 10m+ predecessor in a market that is dying. It's the only one of the 3 consoles that didn't decline a lot on it's predecessor. A solid achievement. 

I do realise, but PS3 also had very slow start because very high price.

Of Course, but again you realise you comparing selling numbers of worst selling Nintendo console ever and one of the fastest selling console ever!? So saying that is impressive or some kind of good achievement beacuse one of the fastest selling console ever outsold Nintendo worst selling console ever after 2.5 years (you said that in UK PS4 outsold Wii U in just a week), doesnt make any sense.

Again, comparing sales numbers with console that had very slow start (PS3) isn't positive at all for PS4 that WW is selling around 3x better than PS3.

Fact: PS4 WW sales number are currently around 45m, PS4 Japan sales numbers are only around 3m. Fact is that those are very bad sales numbers for Japan compared to WW sales.



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Miyamotoo said:
Kerotan said:

You realise that ps4 had a terrible first 2 years in terms of software.  Very few Japanese games especially mid to big tier titles.  Almost all titles were also on vita or ps3 or on all 3. 

 

You do realise that the Wii U compared to other markets did much better in Japan?  The ps4 outsold the Wii U after one week in the UK.  To do that in Japan would have taken a launch of 1.6m!!! Hopefully now you see why it's pointless bringing up that point.  

 

The Wii U had 15 months extra on the market. 

 

You know what's impressive?  tracking ahead of your 10m+ predecessor in a market that is dying. It's the only one of the 3 consoles that didn't decline a lot on it's predecessor. A solid achievement. 

I do realise, but PS3 also had very slow start because very high price.

Of Course, but again you realise you comparing selling numbers of worst selling Nintendo console ever and one of the fastest selling console ever!? So saying that is impressive or some kind of good achievement beacuse one of the fastest selling console ever outsold Nintendo worst selling console ever after 2.5 years (you said that in UK PS4 outsold Wii U in just a week), doesnt make any sense.

Again, comparing sales numbers with console that had very slow start (PS3) isn't positive at all for PS4 that WW is selling around 3x better than PS3.

Fact: PS4 WW sales number are currently around 45m, PS4 Japan sales numbers are only around 3m. Fact is that those are very bad sales numbers for Japan compared to WW sales.

You do realise that's not the context I say it's an achievement.  If ps4 was to only sell 4m and beat the Wii U by a little I'd agree,  not an achievement.  But it's going to end up selling double at least.  In the end ps4 will sell way more than Wii U.  It will beat other consoles like Saturn,  Gamecube,  N64 etc and will end up with a respectable 8-11m sold.  

 

And again comparing to ps3 is fine because they both had slow starts for different reasons but they're both picking up to impressive weekly numbers around the same time on their comparison graph.  



Unless NX really affects the Vita and not the PS4, I expect PS4 to keep this third place until the end.



Kerotan said:
Miyamotoo said:

I do realise, but PS3 also had very slow start because very high price.

Of Course, but again you realise you comparing selling numbers of worst selling Nintendo console ever and one of the fastest selling console ever!? So saying that is impressive or some kind of good achievement beacuse one of the fastest selling console ever outsold Nintendo worst selling console ever after 2.5 years (you said that in UK PS4 outsold Wii U in just a week), doesnt make any sense.

Again, comparing sales numbers with console that had very slow start (PS3) isn't positive at all for PS4 that WW is selling around 3x better than PS3.

Fact: PS4 WW sales number are currently around 45m, PS4 Japan sales numbers are only around 3m. Fact is that those are very bad sales numbers for Japan compared to WW sales.

You do realise that's not the context I say it's an achievement.  If ps4 was to only sell 4m and beat the Wii U by a little I'd agree,  not an achievement.  But it's going to end up selling double at least.  In the end ps4 will sell way more than Wii U.  It will beat other consoles like Saturn,  Gamecube,  N64 etc and will end up with a respectable 8-11m sold.  

 

And again comparing to ps3 is fine because they both had slow starts for different reasons but they're both picking up to impressive weekly numbers around the same time on their comparison graph.  

So you basically saying that is achievement that PS4 which is one of fastest selling console ever, will beat Wii U for at least twice better sales, console that is not just worst selling Nintendo console ever but Nintendo console with shortest life span and that soon will be discontinued!? You are right, that's incredible achievement. :D

That's point, PS3 had slow start WW, while PS4 is fastest console WW only in Japan is selling on pair with PS3 that had very slow start.