Will buy it for PS4 ^^
Ck1x said:
Yep, the first game sold horrible and everyone will trash Nintendo for taking their game away from them when Sony or Microsoft could have easily stepped up and done the same thing. |
Exactly. Last gen we had to combine the sales of the first in order to make it stand out, having to combine them, two suerbases from last gen that were huge, against the Wii U isn't exactly a good point for anyone to use. The second game became a thing because Nintendo stepped up to the plate when the other two did not. For years the other two have said nor done anythng for BGaE, If rumors are true, it could end up like Bayo 2 with Nintendo and it would be because they stepped up.
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irstupid said:
Without Nintendo, Bayonetta 2 would cease to exist. The franchise would have died at 1, and at that point it's not called a franchise. And who is to say Bayonetta franchise is dead? I mean heck, they are just teasing the work of the Amiibo bayonetta, who's to say they also don't have something in the works for the NX? But again, without Nintendo there woudl only be one Bayonetta. And it sounds like it could also be without Nintendo, there would only be one Beyond Good and Evil. But let's hate on Nintendo for the sake of it why don't we. |
Nothing about hating Nintendo and just being realistic. They'd have a MUCH better shot at success releasing on multiple consoles, especially if the NX becomes the next Wii U. The Bayonetta scenerio Nintendo fans love to tout always completely ignores the piss poor port the PS3 got. Sales for that version probably would have been quite a bit better if it hadn't received such a poor port. So, the devs really have themselves to blame for that one.
thismeintiel said:
Nothing about hating Nintendo and just being realistic. They'd have a MUCH better shot at success releasing on multiple consoles, especially if the NX becomes the next Wii U. The Bayonetta scenerio Nintendo fans love to tout always completely ignores the piss poor port the PS3 got. Sales for that version probably would have been quite a bit better if it hadn't received such a poor port. So, the devs really have themselves to blame for that one. |
It's irritating when people assume that everything will sell better on the other consoles when they are both struggling to sell their own exclusives. If it's not Halo, Uncharted, Forza or games similar in status to those they aren't selling that well!
thismeintiel said:
Nothing about hating Nintendo and just being realistic. They'd have a MUCH better shot at success releasing on multiple consoles, especially if the NX becomes the next Wii U. The Bayonetta scenerio Nintendo fans love to tout always completely ignores the piss poor port the PS3 got. Sales for that version probably would have been quite a bit better if it hadn't received such a poor port. So, the devs really have themselves to blame for that one. |
Does that only benefit the console and not any other system?. What about the piss poor Arkham Knight port on PC?, or the other times there have been bad ports on PC as well as the other consoles. Really it would be the devs and pubs for all those accounts too.
The other thing to note is that it still didn't do all that well when we combine both systems from last gen, that had big userbases, together. The genre itself isn't really all that popular compared to say shooters or even some exclusives.
If we decide that it's fine and the game is to apparently do better when released on multiple platforms, then really we could say this for plenty of other games.
There are some games that just don't sell all that well. Zombi U on Wii U didn't do amazingly well and later on it didn't do all that well on the other systems either. There are times where a game just isn't as popular as you think it is and it just doesn't do as well as you thought it would.
Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.
| Chazore said: Does that only benefit the console and not any other system?. What about the piss poor Arkham Knight port on PC?, or the other times there have been bad ports on PC as well as the other consoles. Really it would be the devs and pubs for all those accounts too. The other thing to note is that it still didn't do all that well when we combine both systems from last gen, that had big userbases, together. The genre itself isn't really all that popular compared to say shooters or even some exclusives. If we decide that it's fine and the game is to apparently do better when released on multiple platforms, then really we could say this for plenty of other games. There are some games that just don't sell all that well. Zombi U on Wii U didn't do amazingly well and later on it didn't do all that well on the other systems either. There are times where a game just isn't as popular as you think it is and it just doesn't do as well as you thought it would. |
I'll also add ZombiU isn't the only example either I remember NMH on Wii being ported to 360 and PS3, people for ages were saying games like that would do better on other platforms. When it was ported it bombed even harder. Bayonetta is interesting in that it's sales on a userbase of 13m are comparable to sales on platforms that sold 80m and it sold on the former with out going to the bargain bin either.
Even a game like W101 has sales comparable with other PG titles on the said platforms as it sold on par with titles like Vanquish, tbh I think the userbase that follows Nintendo respond better to PG hence how she got in Smash.
| DélioPT said: I can and i can't understand the hype behind this "teaser"... The original game didn't even sell well in the first place. But if the game was THAT good then i can understood it having a cult following. If this is made, will it really be worth the time and money? |
Beyond Good & Evil was very well recieved and has had a growing following in the years that followed
| Wyrdness said: I'll also add ZombiU isn't the only example either I remember NMH on Wii being ported to 360 and PS3, people for ages games like that would do better on other platforms. When it was ported it bombed even harder. Bayonetta is interesting in that it's sales on a userbase of 13m are comparable to sales on platforms that sold 80m and it sold on the former with out going to the bargain bin either. Even an a game like W101 has sales comparable with other PG titles on the said platforms as it sold on par with tiles like Vanquish, tbh I think the userbase that follows Nintendo respond better to PG hence how she got in Smash. |
It's the same story for Strategy games. Last year there was Grand Ages: Medieval on PS4. Haven't heard much of a peep about that game on their end. Reviews are mixed on Steam currently, but I know which side is going to get the most out of it. I imagine there will be touts when XCOM 2 comes out, but they will have to be backed up by a large margin of the install base, you know since that has been an ongoing weapon used in this gen's console war.
See the recent Japanese titles making their way to Steam, those devs know that there is money to be made and that there is a definite market for what they want to sell. With the situation like bayo, the market has had access to those types of games for years, yet it was largely ignored from both large bases, despite having actual access to the game on either system.
Also remember the whole Rayman fiasco?, how it got delayed for Wii U to go to the larger last gen base, which Wii U ended up outselling at the time it eventually got released?, good times.
Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.
thismeintiel said:
Nothing about hating Nintendo and just being realistic. They'd have a MUCH better shot at success releasing on multiple consoles, especially if the NX becomes the next Wii U. The Bayonetta scenerio Nintendo fans love to tout always completely ignores the piss poor port the PS3 got. Sales for that version probably would have been quite a bit better if it hadn't received such a poor port. So, the devs really have themselves to blame for that one. |
Hey if Ubisoft is funding the game, then sure it would make sense to be on other systems. But how does releasing the game for other system benefit Nintendo? It doesn't one bit, and they are seemingly the ones that woud be backing this game financially.
So talk all you want about what woudl sell the most games. Tell Sony and Microsoft to man up and finance the game if you want it. Nintendo is doing that and they can then do damn well what they want with the game.
If Ubisoft will only make BG&E 2 with someone else's money I think Nintendo is the only place they can turn to. I don't think Sony or MS value that brand highly enough to warrant putting exclusive money into it. It's a niche cult classic, but ultimately not a big seller. But if Nintendo can convince 100K people to buy NX who otherwise wouldn't have given it a thought, then it might be worth it to them.
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